Dual colour warning labels

[Dave OCD]

I think if a person with no knowledge of wiring colour schemes created a dangerous situation worthy of apportioning blame, the onus would be on the lack of compliance with BS7671 regarding the bodge and bodger, rather than the lack of a sticker.

Ok but what if [for example] an RCD failed to operate in time during a fault and someone got a nasty shock or worse, if there was no quarterly test button label that could go much further....

 

[Andy78]

Ok but what if [for example] an RCD failed to operate in time during a fault and someone got a nasty shock or worse, if there was no quarterly test button label that could go much further....

Well I have said I agree with those labels and their use. The label up for debate here is the mixed colours one.

 

[Octopus]

What about this;
___________________________
............WARNING.............
..NO WARNING LABELS FITTED..
___________________________

Perfect but should it refer to the "labels" section in BS 7671?

This approach is certainly going to get the backing of the green brigade - all those labels being made, transported .......

 

[Dave OCD]

Well I have said I agree with those labels and their use. The label up for debate here is the mixed colours one.

Ok point taken but surely all labelling by virtue of being included in the regs is of equal relevance for a complaint installation, so you might as well fit them.

 

[Wilko]

What about this;
___________________________
............WARNING.............
..NO WARNING LABELS FITTED..
___________________________

And :
Consult BS7671 for next steps

 

[HandySparks]

Ok point taken but surely all labelling by virtue of being included in the regs is of equal relevance for a complaint installation, so you might as well fit them.

Surely the point of the discussion is whether some of them should be in the regs at all?

 

[Dave OCD]

No that wasn't the point as far as I read it, worthy of discussion though.

 

[sparksburnout]

Yes because to do anything at all to the board or installation - including pressing an RCD test button you have to open the cover...

That's what I thought.

 

[sparksburnout]

Perfect but should it refer to the "labels" section in BS 7671?

This approach is certainly going to get the backing of the green brigade - all those labels being made, transported .......

It's always a bit of a challenge to get them all nicely lined up with each other and dead level.

 

[Octopus]

Maybe get some postage sized ones printed - I don't think the regs make no reference to minimum font size!

 

[sparksburnout]

On one assessment, I got a ticking off for not putting a "230V" warning label on a Wiska Box feeding some SWA. So I said to the guy, shouldn't I be putting them on all the sockets/FCU's/inspection boxes/light switches and any other bit of kit that some numpty might decide to remove the cover from and stick his mitts in then? He just smiled....

 

[Andy78]

Yes because to do anything at all to the board or installation - including pressing an RCD test button you have to open the cover...

Ahhh , but how would you know to open the lid and press the test button if there was no label informing you of the RCD that lurks under the lid ?

 

[sparksburnout]

Oh!! and the "NEW" banner is still covering some of the text in posts, iv'e just noticed in my last one!

 

[Andy78]

Maybe get some postage sized ones printed - I don't think the regs make no reference to minimum font size!

Unfortunately they do.

 

[sparksburnout]

Ahhh , but how would you know to open the lid and press the test button if there was no label informing you of the RCD that lurks under the lid ?

Half of my customers would just try and press the lid......

 

[The Ghost]

I suggest one warning notice;
Warning only qualified personnell should work on this equipment.
Do NOT interfere with this equipment unless you are qualified to do so.
You may also be breaking the law if you do.

Failure to follow the above may result in death or serious injury.

CALL A QUALIFIED ELECTRICIAN

 

[Dave OCD]

Half of my customers would just try and press the lid......

And the other half can't read.

 

[Octopus]

Unfortunately they do.

Reg number? Got my BYB to hand...

 

[Andy78]

Reg number? Got my BYB to hand...

Well, not for the mixed colours label it doesn't actually, but the regs for the RCD label and inspection date label state "in characters not smaller than those illustrated" then specify the wording.

514.12.1 and 514.12.2

 

[Octopus]

Well, not for the mixed colours label it doesn't actually, but the regs for the RCD label and inspection date label state "in characters not smaller than those illustrated" then specify the wording.

514.12.1 and 514.12.2

In which case i won't fit them any more.....