EICR - PLASTIC CONSUMER UNIT CODE C2 or C3

[Briggs69]

After your thoughts on EICR coding for an existing plastic consumer unit in an under stairs cupboard, firstly in a standard domestic dwelling and secondly in a house of multiple occupancy.
After discussing this others and with tech helplines seems to be a bit of a split as to what code!

If it’s in good condition no code at all.theres millions of insulated boards in the uk can’t change them all just cause there not amendment 3

 

[Toneyz]

JPEL /64 is stuffed full of manufacturers with profits to make ...

Like who? I agree with you if your right but need a more to go on than that.

 

[westward10]

Just something people keep whining on about.

 

[Octopus]

Like who? I agree with you if your right but need a more to go on than that.

Committee members

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  Nominating organizations
• & Surveying
• A E A - Agricultural Engineers Association
• A M D E A - Association of Manufacturers of Domestic Appliances
• Association of Manufacturers of Power Generating Systems
• B E A M A Installation Ltd
• B E A M A Limited
• B T Plc. - British Telecommunications Plc
• BEIS - Department for Business, Energy & Industrial Strategy
• British Approvals Service for Cables
• British Cables Association
• Certsure LLP
• Chartered Institution of Building Services Engineers
• CIGRE - UK
• City & Guilds
• City and Guilds of London Institute
• DC Users Forum
• Deputy Chair
• E N A - Energy Networks Association
• E R A Technology Ltd
• EAL
• Electrical Contractors Association
• Electrical Safety First
• Energy Institute
• G A M B I C A Association Limited
• H S E - Health and Safety Executive
• Heating Ventilating and Air Conditioning Manufactures Association
• I E T - Institution of Engineering and Technology
• Institute of Healthcare Engineering and Estate Management
• Institution of Lighting Professionals
• Intertek Group PLC
• Lighting Industry Association
• M o D - U K Defence Standardization
• MHCLG - Ministry of Housing, Communities & Local Government
• N A P I T - National Association of Professional Inspectors and Testers
• NHS Scotland
• Professional Lighting and Sound Association
• R I A - Railway Industry Association
• S E L E C T
• Safety Assessment Federation Ltd
• Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders Limited
• SPACES - Society for PUblic Architecture, Construction, Engineering
• Sub-Committee Member
• The Association of Manufacturers of Power generating Systems
• U N I T E - The Union
• United Kingdom Accreditation Service
  Liaisons with other committees
• Chair - CPW/4
• Chair - JEPL/64/B
• Chair - JPEL/64/A
• Chair - JPEL/64/C
• Individual Capacity - Surge Protection Devices
• Individual Capacity � Competent Persons Forum
• Liaison - FSH/12
• Liaison - GEL/8
• Liaison - GEL/82
• Liaison - TCT/7
• UK Expert - CLC/TC64/WG 4
  BSI roles
• B S I Contact for External Secretary
• Committee Chair
• External Secretary
• External Secretary/Administrator

 

[westward10]

I cannot see any manufacturers on there.

 

[Octopus]

I cannot see any manufacturers on there.

They are "tucked away" in the variety of bodies....

e.g.

BEAMA (British Electrotechnical and Allied Manufacturers Association) Association news from Engineering - https://www.engineeringspecifier.com/companies/beama-british-electrotechnical-and-allied-manufacturers-association-association

and

Home - http://www.bcauk.org/

 

[Pete999]

Committee members

• 
  Nominating organizations
• & Surveying
• A E A - Agricultural Engineers Association
• A M D E A - Association of Manufacturers of Domestic Appliances
• Association of Manufacturers of Power Generating Systems
• B E A M A Installation Ltd
• B E A M A Limited
• B T Plc. - British Telecommunications Plc
• BEIS - Department for Business, Energy & Industrial Strategy
• British Approvals Service for Cables
• British Cables Association
• Certsure LLP
• Chartered Institution of Building Services Engineers
• CIGRE - UK
• City & Guilds
• City and Guilds of London Institute
• DC Users Forum
• Deputy Chair
• E N A - Energy Networks Association
• E R A Technology Ltd
• EAL
• Electrical Contractors Association
• Electrical Safety First
• Energy Institute
• G A M B I C A Association Limited
• H S E - Health and Safety Executive
• Heating Ventilating and Air Conditioning Manufactures Association
• I E T - Institution of Engineering and Technology
• Institute of Healthcare Engineering and Estate Management
• Institution of Lighting Professionals
• Intertek Group PLC
• Lighting Industry Association
• M o D - U K Defence Standardization
• MHCLG - Ministry of Housing, Communities & Local Government
• N A P I T - National Association of Professional Inspectors and Testers
• NHS Scotland
• Professional Lighting and Sound Association
• R I A - Railway Industry Association
• S E L E C T
• Safety Assessment Federation Ltd
• Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders Limited
• SPACES - Society for PUblic Architecture, Construction, Engineering
• Sub-Committee Member
• The Association of Manufacturers of Power generating Systems
• U N I T E - The Union
• United Kingdom Accreditation Service
  Liaisons with other committees
• Chair - CPW/4
• Chair - JEPL/64/B
• Chair - JPEL/64/A
• Chair - JPEL/64/C
• Individual Capacity - Surge Protection Devices
• Individual Capacity � Competent Persons Forum
• Liaison - FSH/12
• Liaison - GEL/8
• Liaison - GEL/82
• Liaison - TCT/7
• UK Expert - CLC/TC64/WG 4
  BSI roles
• B S I Contact for External Secretary
• Committee Chair
• External Secretary
• External Secretary/Administrator

That'll do it Murdoch.

 

[westward10]

So there are no manufacturers pushing their wares then.

 

[westward10]

That'll do it Murdoch.

Do what.

 

[the pict]

I would add a comment on the cert but if its pre this plastic cu reg horseshit it dont count

 

[Octopus]

So there are no manufacturers pushing their wares then.

not looked at the links #108 then?

 

[Mr Ohm's]

Afternoon all! I know this thread has already over a 100+ reply's but I will also put my tuppence worth out there.. I would C3 this query (obviously with a BS 421.1.201 accompanied) if I came across a plastic D.B or other switchgear being in the location of a escape route or under a wooden stair case, but if I found unsatisfactory connections i.e. evidence of excessive heat (charring) from visual inspections carried out I would C2.

 

[the pict]

Regulations cannot be applied retrospectively or we would all millionaires note it, underline it, do it in red and wtf has stairs got to do with it,

 

[westward10]

I understand escape routes as this is quoted in BS7671 but not below a wooden staircase.

 

[Octopus]

I understand escape routes as this is quoted in BS7671 but not below a wooden staircase.

If that is the only way "down" then surely its an escape route

 

[Midwest]

Regulations cannot be applied retrospectively or we would all millionaires note it, underline it, do it in red and wtf has stairs got to do with it,

Think this link might convince you partly of Murdoch's argument;
Hager Teams up With Pro Electrician to “Mythbreak” Amendment 3 - http://professional-electrician.com/features/hager-teams-pro-electrician-mythbust-amendment-3/

 

[the pict]

If that is the only way "down" then surely its an escape route

Yes from a fire upstairs but the other way round, I'd be oot a window

 

[westward10]

If that is the only way "down" then surely its an escape route

The cupboard below the stairs is not the route.

 

[Midwest]

Mind you, most stairs are wooden, but most are covered in plasterboard.

 

[Midwest]

The cupboard below the stairs is not the route.

But the cupboards holding up the stairs.