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To Brianmooore: It's actually just a little over 2.25cm...but I'm past caring now, tbh.
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Yea I agree is ridiculous I just change existing light fitting to suitably ip rated one is easy to do with little extra £££ so don’t see the need to be lazy and not change It.Curiously, it doesn't the 2.25m measurement is still from the floor, even if the lamp is diretly over the (raised) bath. Ridiculous, but that's what the regs say.
?The old reg. said must be not in reach of a person in a bath or shower*. This would exclude a non IP rated light over a raised bath.
* This reminded me of one of the funniest things I've ever witnessed. A electricity board inspector, who had a personal feud with the householder, was inspecting my new installation. I had place an immersion heater switch outside of the airing cupboard in a very large bathroom. Bath position had been revised after I'd done the electrics, and the sight of this overweight character balancing in the bath, desperately trying to prove this switch was within reach, had to be seen to be believed.
Nice to hear stories like that Brian, Although you are definitely old school with the wording of “Electricity Board” they havnt changed much these days just less competent ?The property was a 'time warp' large farmhouse, which was sold at auction. The boss man of the local electricity board and my customer were the last two bidders, and my customer outbid him, so when it came to connect up to the mains supply (place had a small generator only), he came out in person to do the checks.
Only thing he found 'wrong' in the end, was that I had used the earthing stud on the side of a large ironclad generator change over switch to join some bonding wires together, instead of a separate service block or MET.
Yea I bet is too many ppl sticking their dirty fingers in the pie these days isn’t itThings were much simpler in those days.
SWEB installed the supply, SWEB fitted the meter, SWEB did some very basic testing, SWEB energised the supply, SWEB turned up every three months to read the meter, and SWEB sent you your electricity bill.
What is the exact wording on the report?Hello - sorry to resurrect old thread but it seems to be along the lines of my issue.
I am a landlord with old Volex CU which only has RCD on sockets - EICR inspection has C2's it as no RCD on lighting circuit but reading this thread and spekaing to my usual electrician from London, it would seem it could be a C3 - can anyone advise me please?
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Bradley
C2 is perfectly justified in this situation. Its down to the person who is signing the certificate whether to c2 or c3 in this situation.Hello - sorry to resurrect old thread but it seems to be along the lines of my issue.
I am a landlord with old Volex CU which only has RCD on sockets - EICR inspection has C2's it as no RCD on lighting circuit but reading this thread and spekaing to my usual electrician from London, it would seem it could be a C3 - can anyone advise me please?
Many thanks
Bradley
C2 MAY be perfectly justified. But I disagree it IS justified.C2 is perfectly justified in this situation. Its down to the person who is signing the certificate whether to c2 or c3 in this situation.
i hate showers, period.C2 MAY be perfectly justified. But I disagree it IS justified.
we code to the guidelines layer down. Nowhere does it say in any guidelines or regs lighting circuits without RCD protection in domestic are potentially dangerous.
other factors in the lighting circuit may justify having the lighting as C2 but not just being without RCD protection.
it’s down to the individual tester. Yes but within the guidelines.
I hate showers without rcd protection, but I don’t give them a C2. I can’t. Unless another issue arises that justifies it.
Good for him. If he changed his mind we'd be moaning. Get the work done, as requested by the only electrician who has been on site and deemed it necessary.He is having none of it and also says I have to have earth going to switch and light, even if using a plastic fitting - Grrrr
Hang on a minute! This was a thread about no RCD, and now it's no cpc.He is having none of it and also says I have to have earth going to switch and light, even if using a plastic fitting - Grrrr
I'm with Buzz, I'd C2, while industry guides dictate a C3, they are just that; Guides. The inspector may have used thier engineering judgement, the fact it is going to be let out, the fact that this may involve children or unskilled persons DIY (The latter being thr only one that can be controlled by the letting agreement).You can’t C2 on a whim.
personal feelings, and maybe the tenant will do this or that cannot go into an EICR.
state fact and code appropriately without prejudice.
Without seeing his wording I cannot give a definitive responce, but from what you say , he is wrong.He is having none of it and also says I have to have earth going to switch and light, even if using a plastic fitting - Grrrr
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