Electrician advice please

[duffy87]

That isn't good enough he is legally obliged to supply you with one.

I've emailed and text now for it, just for paper trial.

 

[loz2754]

If the EICR was done last year, shouldn't it be online?
Can't he just download the certificate?

EICRs are not required to be uploaded anywhere. They might even be hand written.

 

[duffy87]

If the EICR was done last year, shouldn't it be online?
Can't he just download the certificate?

Seems there maybe more to this than just , unqualified Sparky's, have a feeling he's covering up something that he can't afford to pay for.

 

[cireland]

EICRs are not required to be uploaded anywhere. They might even be hand written.

We're NIC. They REALLY don't like paper.

 

[westward10]

Seems there maybe more to this than just , unqualified Sparky's, have a feeling he's covering up something that he can't afford to pay for.

He can afford it.

 

[cireland]

Seems there maybe more to this than just , unqualified Sparky's, have a feeling he's covering up something that he can't afford to pay for.

Unfortunately, a lot of landlords have the deep pockets, short arms thing.

 

[duffy87]

He can afford it.

He should be able too I've paid just over 45k in rent here, and I know he has at least 4 more properties. Thanks for responses guys appreciate it very much, been a great help l! If any of you have a leaky roof hit me up haha.

 

[cireland]

It's an NICEIC label too.

 

[westward10]

Might be worth while contacting Citizens Advice.

 

[littlespark]

Might be worth while contacting Citizens Advice.

BBC Rough Traders...... Local rag.... MP!

 

[duffy87]

It's an NICEIC label too.

Dunno what that means haha.

BBC Rough Traders...... Local rag.... MP!

Spoke to council this afternoon getting a call back tomorrow from them, this will be the second time! Had to do this over the roof... I offered to fix the damn thing for free just as long as he provided scaffolding and mats... Instead he paid his mate roofer (never seen a roof) a stupid amount to do it, which resulted in me fixing his mess anyways.

 

[DPG]

Dunno what that means haha.

Spoke to council this afternoon getting a call back tomorrow from them, this will be the second time! Had to do this over the roof... I offered to fix the damn thing for free just as long as he provided scaffolding and mats... Instead he paid his mate roofer (never seen a roof) a stupid amount to do it, which resulted in me fixing his mess anyways.

Some people really shouldn't be renting houses out. Can't believe he wouldn't let you do it. He sounds like a right tool.

 

[davesparks]

BBC Rough Traders...... Local rag.... MP!

........ Eviction notice......... Homeless.

 

[duffy87]

........ Eviction notice......... Homeless.

This is the problems aswell, have to tred very carefully in these situations, but I have kids in the house, now I have proof and reassurance this place is unsafe, time to let the polite Tennant leave the building, and let the idiotic roofer come out to play!!! Lol

 

[cireland]

........ Eviction notice......... Homeless.

Wow.
You really poured some sunshine on that.

 

[duffy87]

Some people really shouldn't be renting houses out. Can't believe he wouldn't let you do it. He sounds like a right tool.

He is, he was a labourer along time ago, so he seems to think he knows everything about any trade.

 

[cireland]

He is, he was a labourer along time ago, so he seems to think he knows everything about any trade.

A LITTLE knowledge is almost always a dangerous thing.

 

[duffy87]

A LITTLE knowledge is almost always a dangerous thing.

Jack of trades master of none!

 

[duffy87]

A LITTLE knowledge is almost always a dangerous thing.

Double post sorry

 

[UNG]

........ Eviction notice......... Homeless.

I think the landlord would find himself with a much larger problem than rogue traders etc

 

[mainline]

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That inspection sticker has the wrong date on it.
It should have been the 1st of April

 

[mainline]

I don't think you could get GET rcbos. I think that's the first time I've written get get.

It's the second time

 

[davesparks]

I think the landlord would find himself with a much larger problem than rogue traders etc

Would they?

If they follow the proper procedure for eviction there's nothing the tenant can do about it.

I've seen it a couple of times when I used to do work for a local lettings agent. When tenants asked for reasonable repairs and the quote was a bit expensive it all went quiet for a few months and then I was back there testing the appliances in the empty property ready for the next tenant/victim to move in.

 

[mainline]

Would they?

If they follow the proper procedure for eviction there's nothing the tenant can do about it.

I've seen it a couple of times when I used to do work for a local lettings agent. When tenants asked for reasonable repairs and the quote was a bit expensive it all went quiet for a few months and then I was back there testing the appliances in the empty property ready for the next tenant/victim to move in.

They just say “I can't afford to do it” and obviously it can't be lived in because as you say it's dangerous, so I have no choice but to let you find other accommodation.

Pat test ?
I rent out 2 houses, never had appliances tested.

 

[davesparks]

They just say “I can't afford to do it” and obviously it can't be lived in because as you say it's dangerous, so I have no choice but to let you find other accommodation.

Pat test ?
I rent out 2 houses, never had appliances tested.

Yes, that's an automatic get-out clause in an AST.

Yes PAT, some lettings agencies insist on this for all appliances which belong to tbe property. I'm pretty sure it's just the lettings agencies finding another way to make an easy buck.

 

[mainline]

First thing I'd check is polarity. Has the meter installer reversed the polarity, either making it wrong now or making it right when it was wrong before? This is the only thing I can think of that could conceivably cause immediate RCD tripping after a meter change
Wouldn't cause tripping in itself, of course, but would, if there was a particular common, pre existing, serious fault..

Any idea what sort of fault would cause an RCD to trip with a polarity reversal ?

 

[davesparks]

Wow.
You really poured some sunshine on that.

It wasn't intended to be fun, it was intended to point out that tenants who annoy the landlord get evicted so people should think about the possible consequences before advising a tenant to start involving authorities.

 

[mainline]

It wasn't intended to be fun, it was intended to point out that tenants who annoy the landlord get evicted so people should think about the possible consequences before advising a tenant to start involving authorities.

Agreed, in fact in this part of the country rented properties are getting like gold dust and prospective tenants offering to pay 6 months rent in advance.

 

[Pretty Mouth]

Any idea what sort of fault would cause an RCD to trip with a polarity reversal ?

A N-E fault could cause intermittent tripping, but reversing the polarity would give you a L-E fault, which would trip immediately on energising

 

[brianmoooore]

Any idea what sort of fault would cause an RCD to trip with a polarity reversal ?

Earth to neutral one, of course. 2kohms neutral to earth may cause occasional nuisance tripping, but if that becomes live to earth, then the RCD is pretty much going to trip instantly.

Edit: I see Pretty Mouth has just beaten me to it, but I've typed it, so will post anyway.

 

[Aaron b]

There really should be something to protect people in these situations. But even social housing are known to do these sort of things. This one was near me. Slug-infested home leads to £5,500 compensation pay-out - https://www.greatyarmouthmercury.co.uk/news/housing/compensation-over-slug-infested-great-yarmouth-home-9215918
It sounds like environmental health could provide some protection against revenge evictions, if they would though is another matter.

 

[duffy87]

It wasn't intended to be fun, it was intended to point out that tenants who annoy the landlord get evicted so people should think about the possible consequences before advising a tenant to start involving authorities.

Already taken him to environmental health once and I'll do it again. He's not even put my bond if that deposit thing they legally have to do so wil cost him 2500 to kick me out anyways, and at this point I'll happily take the money lol. The first time I got environmental health involved this test u all keep mentioning was one of the mandatory things that needed doing. I've started a claim with Scottish power/Siemens over leaving me with no electric after smart meters where fitted. They are going to send out a technician to find out how this happend and to check over the electrics. Now the land lord is practically begging me to stop going forward with my claim with Scottish power, which makes me think he's hiding some thing, he was all up for it when he thought he would just get compensated, now all of a sudden he doesn't want them any where near.

 

[duffy87]

Just a quick update if any 1 gives 2 shits lol,
Turns out the smart meter "engineer" screwed through a wire that ran to the dining room plug socket, making a certain section of my smart meter "live". Thank god me or my wife didn't touch it.

 

[littlespark]

Thanks for the update....

Is it all sorted? LL happy? you happy?

As for giving shits.... We do give 2 from time to time.

 

[Aaron b]

Glad you got this sorted. Did an electrician fault find and do you feel any safer regarding the rest of the installation?

 

[7029 dave]

Just a quick update if any 1 gives 2 shits lol,
Turns out the smart meter "engineer" screwed through a wire that ran to the dining room plug socket, making a certain section of my smart meter "live". Thank god me or my wife didn't touch it.

But the meter is screwed to the back board and Henley blocks thats the only place he's been.
Did he hit a cable behind this looking at the picture it seems doubtful.

 

[loz2754]

More importantly, how did you get the word shits past the profanity filter!

 

[DPG]

More importantly, how did you get the word shits past the profanity filter!

Good point. I'm sure you can't say shits. Can we all say shits?

 

[loz2754]

Shits. ----. Shitter. rubbish. Shat.

 

[7029 dave]

Good point. I'm sure you can't say shits. Can we all say shits?

You can Daz lol

 

[loz2754]

Should have read as in the photo:

 

[littlespark]

So we’re allowed shits, but not ----?


Well that’s strange.

Can we have rubbish?



Oh? That’s not what I typed! Shits with an E instead of an S comes up as “rubbish”

 

[duffy87]

Thanks for the update....

Is it all sorted? LL happy? you happy?

As for giving shits.... We do give 2 from time to time.

LL never happy lol, me deffo happy.

Glad you got this sorted. Did an electrician fault find and do you feel any safer regarding the rest of the installation?

Yes an electrician found the fault, didn't notice it tbh, but when pointed out it's clearly visible.

But the meter is screwed to the back board and Henley blocks thats the only place he's been.
Did he hit a cable behind this looking at the picture it seems doubtful.

It is screwed to the back box. If you look on the picture to the right of the actual smart meter. There is two boxes with wires from the meter running into them, they are screwed onto a piece of wood, behind the wood runs a grey wire, that's what he screwed through.

 

[nicebutdim]

So we’re allowed shits, but not ----?


Well that’s strange.

Can we have rubbish?



Oh? That’s not what I typed! Shits with an E instead of an S comes up as “rubbish”

Waiting for the first time someone's post autocorrects to 'bullrubbish'. That'll cause some head scratching.

 

[loz2754]

Bullshite. I bet this didn't get through.

 

[littlespark]

This thread is off tangent.

Gone from “fault after smart meter install” to “how can we get around the swear filter?”

Well, fork me…. Won’t be long til admin cleans it up a bit.

 

[Aaron b]

LL never happy lol, me deffo happy.

Yes an electrician found the fault, didn't notice it tbh, but when pointed out it's clearly visible.

It is screwed to the back box. If you look on the picture to the right of the actual smart meter. There is two boxes with wires from the meter running into them, they are screwed onto a piece of wood, behind the wood runs a grey wire, that's what he screwed through.

And they put a couple of blanks in the fusebox to cover the holes/spare ways?

 

[duffy87]

And they put a couple of blanks in the fusebox to cover the holes/spare ways?

Oh no they didn't go that far.

 

[duffy87]

Least he's helping with the certificate

 

[Aaron b]

Oh no they didn't go that far.

Well that's pretty shameful. The blanks are pence.