Electrician walked out - worth involving NICEIC?

[PeaceLily]

No, this is a contractual matter and so nothing to do with the NICEIC.

The NICEIC assess a contractors work for compliance with regulations, best practice and industry standards, they also provide a system for certifying and registering completed domestic works.

Your issue, as you have described it appears to be around a broken contract, not compliance with electrical regulations.

Thank you for your response, much appreciated

 

[PeaceLily]

well, if that's the case then is down to your PM, has they say to many cooks.
you employed the pm you should be on site to make sure there no miss communication.

Who said we weren’t on site? Every time someone was there we were also there. Unfortunately the sparkies were also there when we weren’t as they had a key - our mistake

 

[PeaceLily]

He would be taking orders from the PM Not yourself .As this is where it normally gets messy a lot .Clients not understanding the "Chain of command" .If its a couple .only ONE gets to gives instructions .Its always the best way and written down in quotes etc . We ask if what the issue might be as we do this day in day out .We know way more about what goes on and believe us, Customers can really be a pain ! And think they hold all the cards . If your PM has paid money out for work done pro rata then your loss is contained to some degree .If the PM has paid out more then the issue you have is with the the PM etc . Is there not a simple reason explained in a PM /email /call etc that at least lets you know whats in his head ?

Yes there is. I have no beef with the electrician but also don’t appreciate being left in the lurch in a property that may not be safe. Thanks for your response, much appreciated.

 

[nicebutdim]

Clearly the question you came here to ask has since been answered but, from information contained in subsequent posts, I can't help wondering what value the project manager brings to this party.

 

[LukeD]

Clearly the question you came here to ask has since been answered but, from information contained in subsequent posts, I can't help wondering what value the project manager brings to this party.

THis 100 % .Ive just completed a Job that was been "run " by an interior designer" . She pulled me in for a meeting about "exactly " where sconce lights must go etc in the master bedroom and all the other electrical details .The manner in how she spoke was unreal .She treated everyone on site like it was their first day at school . Client now wants to know why she has to get out of bed and walk to the door in order to turn the sconce lights off when she wants to sleep !! The so called designer failed to have sconce switches on each side of the bed . Also no data cables to each room or telephone socket etc . Client aint happy . Brief was "Might want to rent " (high value) . No smoke alarm system fitted etc etc . And these people are charging fortunes for knowing SFA !

 

[UNG]

THis 100 % .Ive just completed a Job that was been "run " by an interior designer" . She pulled me in for a meeting about "exactly " where sconce lights must go etc in the master bedroom and all the other electrical details .The manner in how she spoke was unreal .She treated everyone on site like it was their first day at school . Client now wants to know why she has to get out of bed and walk to the door in order to turn the sconce lights off when she wants to sleep !! The so called designer failed to have sconce switches on each side of the bed . Also no data cables to each room or telephone socket etc . Client aint happy . Brief was "Might want to rent " (high value) . No smoke alarm system fitted etc etc . And these people are charging fortunes for knowing SFA !

Isn't that the modern way now

 

[James]

THis 100 % .Ive just completed a Job that was been "run " by an interior designer" . She pulled me in for a meeting about "exactly " where sconce lights must go etc in the master bedroom and all the other electrical details .The manner in how she spoke was unreal .She treated everyone on site like it was their first day at school . Client now wants to know why she has to get out of bed and walk to the door in order to turn the sconce lights off when she wants to sleep !! The so called designer failed to have sconce switches on each side of the bed . Also no data cables to each room or telephone socket etc . Client aint happy . Brief was "Might want to rent " (high value) . No smoke alarm system fitted etc etc . And these people are charging fortunes for knowing SFA !

Unfortunately, things like that, you just have to point the client in the direction of the designer who gave you the spec.
I have completed and tested everything according to the specifications that were given to me, unfortunately needs to be the default reply.

 

[LukeD]

Isn't that the modern way now

Unfortunately, things like that, you just have to point the client in the direction of the designer who gave you the spec.
I have completed and tested everything according to the specifications that were given to me, unfortunately needs to be the default reply.

Exactly . Client now wants to know why it was not mentioned to her before .I told her " DIva designer " gave me instructions and you told me to do as I was told . Now its all doable .But that wall paper sure cost a fortune !

 

[nicebutdim]

Unfortunately, things like that, you just have to point the client in the direction of the designer who gave you the spec.
I have completed and tested everything according to the specifications that were given to me, unfortunately needs to be the default reply.

That's just it - you're paid to work to a spec. Deviate from it and you're liable for any costs incurred to rectify your mistakes. It is expected that design has agreed by the client, that any changes need to be notified in advance and will be priced accordingly, or ammendments will be extra to the agreed price.


To be clear; this post isn't directed at the OP, but part of the wider discussion which generally ensues

 

[LukeD]

Who said we weren’t on site? Every time someone was there we were also there. Unfortunately the sparkies were also there when we weren’t as they had a key - our mistake

key barrel should be changed tomorrow.