For old time House Bashers only

[Pete999]

Old Carpentry Carpenter's tools - https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/569629666/old-carpentry-carpenters-tools?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=old%20carpenters%20tools&ref=sr_gallery-2-45
The Auger in the center, who can recall using these jobbies to drill joists in new builds, hands up don't be shy, I still have mine1/2" 3/4" and 1"

 

[Octopus]

So thats Tel and you then !

 

[Pete999]

So thats Tel and you then !

Sure there are others of Me and Tel's Genre who are members Murdoch. Used to carry mine in my Gladstone bag with a block of wood on the end to make sure I didn't stab any of the other Passengers on the Bus whilst traveling too and from jobs, you Kids have it too easy these days, Vans, fuel cards supplied.

 

[cliffed]

Yea remember the days hammer & bolster,good old rawlplug tool,footprint hand drill,no Jenny in them days,wooden steps that use to sway,Buttle clips...haa.....

 

[Pete999]

Yea remember the days hammer & bolster,good old rawlplug tool,footprint hand drill,no Jenny in them days,wooden steps that use to sway,Buttle clips...haa.....

Buckle clips you mean? the only clips to make a surface job look decent.

 

[telectrix]

you mean there's something newer than buckle clips? is that what all the fuss is about on escape routes? somebody using some form of no-metallic clip? where casn i get some?

 

[Pete999]

you mean there's something newer than buckle clips? is that what all the fuss is about on escape routes? somebody using some form of no-metallic clip? where casn i get some?

Long gone Mate as has the art of clipping cables properly.

 

[Dave OCD]

I can clip cables properly ! I know what you mean though Pete.

 

[telectrix]

Buckle strap cable clips x 38mm long | eBay - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Buckle-strap-cable-clips-x-38mm-long/202169027325?hash=item2f12368afd:g:AKgAAOSwUCRZiY~K

 

[Pete999]

I can clip cables properly ! I know what you mean though Pete.

I'm sure you can Dave, the art I was rabbiting about only came from practice

 

[Pete999]

Buckle strap cable clips x 38mm long | eBay - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Buckle-strap-cable-clips-x-38mm-long/202169027325?hash=item2f12368afd:g:AKgAAOSwUCRZiY~K

Stop it Tel, I need to have some just for old time 's sake, I remember sticking brass pins into clips and holding them between my lips

 

[Midwest]

I recall having one of these;


And moved up to one of these, after the rawplug jumper;

You could mimic hammer action, by hitting the end with a lump hammer every hour.

Cause that's when drill bits of every kind, were nice & sharp.

 

[buzzlightyear]

I remember on they old bycikle riding up and down the hills to go to work ,with the old flat cap ,wind passing my ears, to make a few penny's . great baker advert - Bing video - https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=great+baker+advert&view=detail&mid=AF126592951A90F01399AF126592951A90F01399&FORM=VIRE

 

[telectrix]

trade has gone to pot anyway. you never see an electrician working these days in a 3 piece suit with pocket watch on a chain and a bowler hat, do you?

 

[telectrix]

I recall having one of these;
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And moved up to one of these, after the rawplug jumper;

You could mimic hammer action, by hitting the end with a lump hammer every hour.

Cause that's when drill bits of every kind, were nice & sharp.

you been rooting in my kit?

 

[Midwest]

trade has gone to pot anyway. you never see an electrician working these days in a 3 piece suit with pocket watch on a chain and a bowler hat, do you?

Old chap I did my apprenticeship with, wore a bib & brace, shirt & tie, brown brogues and sports jacket. He had a collection of pens & pencils in his jacket breast pocket. Didn't have a test lamp mind, used his finger for that.

 

[buzzlightyear]

used his finger for that.

did he lick is finger for that!

 

[telectrix]

where can i buy this?

Imperial Twin and Earth (T&W) - AA Electrical Services - http://www.aaelectricalservices.co.uk/imperial-twin-and-earth-tw/

stranded and tinned. heaven.

 

[Dave OCD]

Buckle strap cable clips x 38mm long | eBay - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Buckle-strap-cable-clips-x-38mm-long/202169027325?hash=item2f12368afd:g:AKgAAOSwUCRZiY~K

18p each Tel !

 

[telectrix]

18p each Tel !

not cheap. but just long enough to get 2 x 1.5mm side by side in 1 clip. makes a lovely neat job.

 

[telectrix]

hows about these then? can always nick nails from plastic clips to secure if the adhesive don't work too well.
Unistrand ACC05 13mm Buckle Cable Clip - Pack of 250 | eBay - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unistrand-ACC05-13mm-Buckle-Cable-Clip-Pack-of-250/381730395647?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D49138%26meid%3Dab1dc5939cd340ceb28a320efaeed580%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D202169027325&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982

 

[Dave OCD]

You can do that with a modern 2.5 clip, also 3 x 1mm T&Es can be nicely clipped side on with 6mm clips.

Edit - Reply to post #20

 

[Devonchris]

Yep, used one of them augers. It was longer than the one in the photo. Could reach the ceiling joist from the floor.

First task I was allowed to do when i started was placing pins in buckle clips and handing to electrician. Two month before he trusted me to nail one in.

Once spent two whole weeks doing nothing but drilling holes, with the rawldrill and hammer, into concrete in an underground pumping station. I think I only broke two drills. Hell of a job to get out of the hole when you did. Pyro job that one.

 

[static zap]

Remember brace and bit .. but now I have been educated in "Augers"
(+ overalls with braces )

 

[Pete999]

Remember brace and bit .. but now I have been educated in "Augers"
(+ overalls with braces )

Bib and Brace overalls

 

[Squid]

Remember making a band saw in wood work lessons at school back in the 70's still have it somewhere.

 

[Midwest]

did he lick is finger for that!

Just remembered, told that story about ten times before

 

[Pete E]

When I started with BT in the early 80's the installers were still using 1/4" hand augers to go through wooden window frames..When I came out my apprenticeship they were still issued for use in places with out electric...With regards the Raw Plug tool, was that the idea that looked like "drill bit" mounted on the of a cold chisel that you turned as you pounded??? If so, a really handy bit of kit which I wish I still had...

One of the old gents who worked on the cable gang in the early 80s could remember when they still used handcarts before the of vans ect...Suspect we have it rather easy compared to our grandfathers!

 

[Adj]

With regards the Raw Plug tool, was that the idea that looked like "drill bit" mounted on the of a cold chisel that you turned as you pounded??? If so, a really handy bit of kit which I wish I still had...

....and if you needed a bigger throughhole with no power on site and before battery drills, you used a 2 foot length of 3/4" conduit and a 4lb lump hammer - hit and twist, hit and twist

 

[Squid]

When I started with BT in the early 80's the installers were still using 1/4" hand augers to go through wooden window frames..When I came out my apprenticeship they were still issued for use in places with out electric...With regards the Raw Plug tool, was that the idea that looked like "drill bit" mounted on the of a cold chisel that you turned as you pounded??? If so, a really handy bit of kit which I wish I still had...

One of the old gents who worked on the cable gang in the early 80s could remember when they still used handcarts before the of vans ect...Suspect we have it rather easy compared to our grandfathers!

BT Tool kits where ace those little zipped up hearing age beige bags.

 

[Pete E]

BT Tool kits where ace those little zipped up hearing age beige bags.

Not sure which one you are talking about...

As an apprentice, you were issued a small leather wallet not much bigger than a pencil case to hold three screwdrivers, cutters, wire strippers and 81's (long nose pliers)...

Later you were issued the larger leather No3 wallet which was actually a very useful size..

The photo above includes the small hand auger, but I recall a larger one which had a metal eye instead of a tee handle and was turned using a screw driver as a lever...

I still have a No3 wallet somewhere, I shall have to dig it out...

 

[Squid]

Ahhhh yes the number 3 I had one somewhere then you had the larger one as well, I remember the yellow handled screwdrivers and have one somewhere I believe, I think I gave my bag away in the end, still have my Krone tool. Not great for CAT6 cable terminations though.

Number 6 NICE OLD BT leather tool bag NUMBER 6 P.I.C.1987 | eBay - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NICE-OLD-BT-leather-tool-bag-NUMBER-6-P-I-C-1987-/382329853127

 

[Pete E]

Ahhhh yes the number 3 I had one somewhere then you had the larger one as well, I remember the yellow handled screwdrivers and have one somewhere I believe, I think I gave my bag away in the end, still have my Krone tool. Not great for CAT6 cable terminations though.

Number 6 NICE OLD BT leather tool bag NUMBER 6 P.I.C.1987 | eBay - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NICE-OLD-BT-leather-tool-bag-NUMBER-6-P-I-C-1987-/382329853127

Still have a few of the yellow handled screw drivers knocking about as well! lol I have seen a set of the old wooden step ladders going for a stupid amount on ebay after they were tagged as "vintage" lol

 

[Pete E]

Once spent two whole weeks doing nothing but drilling holes, with the rawldrill and hammer, into concrete in an underground pumping station. I think I only broke two drills. Hell of a job to get out of the hole when you did. Pyro job that one.

You guys ever come across Ruabon Red engineering bricks? You could scratch a diamond with one...A lot of the council houses around this part of North Wales were built using them, including tiled skirtings of the same stuff. Even the mortar courses were like cement...getting cleats in was a nightmare as was drilling even when the elecy hammer drills came out...

 

[sparkdog]

Yes, used to use the brace & Rawlplug chisel & the buckle clips & the bolster chisel knocking the feather off floorboards.Took ages and the ears got a right bashing.

 

[dmxtothemax]

I didn't use a hand auger ,
But I do remember using a brace and bit
like in the picture posted by "midwest".

 

[Devonchris]

Yes, used to use the brace & Rawlplug chisel & the buckle clips & the bolster chisel knocking the feather off floorboards.Took ages and the ears got a right bashing.

That's a carpenter's brace. Electricians brace was much smaller with a short crank that you could turn between the joists without taking off your knuckles on the lath and plaster.

 

[telectrix]

less than 1p each.

Unistrand ACC05 13mm Buckle Cable Clip - Pack of 250 | eBay - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unistrand-ACC05-13mm-Buckle-Cable-Clip-Pack-of-250/381730395647?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D49138%26meid%3Dab1dc5939cd340ceb28a320efaeed580%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D202169027325&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&clk_rvr_id=1412745890879&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true

 

[Squid]

less than 1p each.

Unistrand ACC05 13mm Buckle Cable Clip - Pack of 250 | eBay - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unistrand-ACC05-13mm-Buckle-Cable-Clip-Pack-of-250/381730395647?_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D49138%26meid%3Dab1dc5939cd340ceb28a320efaeed580%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D202169027325&_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&clk_rvr_id=1412745890879&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true

Thats the modern sticky on stuff, you want the nail in the middle ones to be authentic.

 

[telectrix]

Thats the modern sticky on stuff, you want the nail in the middle ones to be authentic.

pinch nails out of the plastic clips.

 

[Pete999]

pinch nails out of the plastic clips.

Not the same Tel

 

[sparkdog]

Wrong brace then , but it had a ratchet on it & was quite fast going tbrough joists.

 

[Rpa07]

Still have a few of the yellow handled screw drivers knocking about as well! lol I have seen a set of the old wooden step ladders going for a stupid amount on ebay after they were tagged as "vintage" lol

Those yellow handled screwdrivers used to make your tongue go numb if you held them in your mouth whilst working - I think they were made of cocaine!

 

[Pete999]

Anyone know what those old toolbags that Carpenters used, made out of a sort of sacking?

 

[Devonchris]

Anyone know what those old toolbags that Carpenters used, made out of a sort of sacking?

This one?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Faithfull-Carpenters-Tool-No-6-39IN/dp/B0001IWI4M

 

[Pete999]

This one?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Faithfull-Carpenters-Tool-No-6-39IN/dp/B0001IWI4M

Yes that's the beastie, jeez don't believe you can still buy them, might get one just for the memory

 

[Devonchris]

Out of stock. Sorry Pete.
They've not had any in since 1963

 

[Pete999]

This one?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Faithfull-Carpenters-Tool-No-6-39IN/dp/B0001IWI4M

Yes that's the beastie, jeez don't believe you can still buy them, might get one just for the memory

Out of stock. Sorry Pete.
They've not had any in since 1963

Been out of stock for a while then.

 

[Devonchris]

Yes, quite a while. I've just made an enquiry. Apparently some guy out in the middle East called Joseph got the last one.

 

[Squid]

Anyone know what those old toolbags that Carpenters used, made out of a sort of sacking?

Sacking Tool Bag for Carpenters by any chance?