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Its the one thing stopping me from moving. We both want an older property but there's no way I could start decorating without rewiring. When we look at houses the better half looks how immaculate it is, I'm thinking how much I'd have to rip apart.
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I just checked my wiring diagram. In fact, it will be only 32 circuit breakers... I've got electric heaters, with a circuit breaker for each one (not compulsory), and a lot of specific circuits with 1 circuit breaker for each one (compulsory) : fridge, oven, washing machine, ...
And also, there will be a big communication panel (TV, ethernet,...). This will be a huge wiring for a small flat.
As this flat will be considered as a new flat (I have no electricity at the moment), I need to respect the rules to pass the control. And in France, it's compulsory and very strict !
I hope the 12 sockets in the kitchen are on two separate radials only 6 allowed on any one circuit in the kitchen in France.@Pretty Mouth
I had the same question... It's why I thought he had only one RCD... In fact, this is probably a bug on the picture.
And I didn't see the 1 to 4 circuit breakers where RCBO...
So, the wiring seems to be ok. But there are probably only a few sockets per room.
For information, I will have at least 6 sockets per bedroom and 12 in the kitchen. We never have enough sockets... An upgrade is probably the best option.
I would also suggest a separate breaker for:The minimum necessary is probably around 15 breakers (this is a flat with electric radiators). But it means you would have only 2 or 3 outlets per room, only one light point per room...
Number of breakers necessary for each circuit :
1 - roller blinds
1 - Mechanical ventilation
1 - washing machine
1 - tumble dryer
1 - dishwasher
1 - oven
1 - electric hob
1 - freezer
1 - water heater
1 - day/night water heater management protection
2 - outlets (around 23 outlets compulsory for such a flat) - maxi 12 outlets per breaker (2,5 mm2 wire, 20A breaker)
2 - electric radiators (5 radiators)
1 - light (max 8 light points per circuit breaker)
Total: 15
But I increased the number of breakers for this :
- 3 for electric radiators (1 circuit breaker per radiator)
- 1 for heating manager
- 3 for lights : 1 circuit breaker for 2 rooms (many light points per room)
- 5 for outlets : 1 circuit breaker per room and even 2 for the kitchen and 2 for the living room
- 1 for extractor hood
- 1 for door bell
- 1 for balcony light and outlets
- 1 for communication panel outlets,...
The majority of UK boards do not have protective devices that break both poles or provide earth leakage protection to individual circuits, because the vast majority are not full RCBO boards, getting a bit ahead of yourself and the UK normal installation there, I would akin the French boards more like a Lincoln, Continental that is. ?
sons. First, there are some ceilings that could use a make-over, some rooms with plaster that sounds blown, and the added peace of mind by getting everything redone in breathable lime plaster to match the solid wall construction. The current state of the house doesn't require a full replaster - likely a partial one would be ok. However, if the benefits of the rewire are big enough, then certainly it would tip the balance to just replastering everything. It's one of those issues, though, that snowballs...if we replaster, we would likely also replace the central heating pipework to make sure everything that is very invasive is done at the same time. A damp survey highlighted that some areas likely had past leaks that were subsequently fixed, so probably not a bad idea to update everything. The downside is that it takes away from the budget we were planning on using to replace a very dated and ready
No they don't, it is quite excessive.32 circuit breakers in a 2 bed flat is frankly ridiculous. Do the French regs really demand this?
serves you right for not anticipating this and providing TV points in every possible place a woman might change her mind for. then again, 200 TV points in a room is expensive on materialsWhen we had an extension built, i meticulously planned where the TV was going... extra sockets, telephone point for the old sky box, satellite coax, network cabling for the smart tv, xbox....
2 years later, the wife decided she wanted the tv in a different corner.
2 years after that... she wanted it on the wall...
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