G9 socket for stranded cable (i.e. not push fit)

[Oikos100]

Hi,
Does anyone know where I can find G9 sockets that aren't push fit?
I have stranded 2 core cable and don't want to solder the cable ends as it's not something I've done before and I can only find g9 sockets that cables push into (seemingly for solid core).

Is there a particular term for sockets that cables are screwed into so I can search better?

Alternatively, if soldering (tinning?) is safe and easy for an amateur can anyone advise on how to go about this please?

(creating cluster pendant with 8 cables/g9 leds)

Thanks
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....just discovered ferrules....opinions?
Would tinned copper be the best? Thanks

 

[Marvo]

You won't get a stranded wire with a ferrule into a push fit lamp holder terminal without damaging it. The wire with a ferrule will be too large in diameter. Those types of lamp holder just aren't designed to be used with fine stranded wire so doing this in any other case than a DIY project isn't recommended and could even be illegal.

Often there's a pin hole or small lever behind the push-in terminal that releases it to allow a wire to be removed. I'd try pushing that release and see if it will then accept a stranded wire and grip it satisfactorily.

At a push, I'd try lightly tinning the wire with solder but if you have excess solder on the wire it's also going to cause problems.

 

[Oikos100]

Ah ok, thank you - do you know if non-push fit g9 sockets exist? Thanks, I just don't feel confident soldering

 

[Marvo]

I've never seen any that aren't push fit.

 

[Oikos100]

OK, thanks
Just found this tutorial using ferrules with pushfit....It's not a G9 socket but wonder if the holes would be the same size

 

[Lucien Nunes]

This might be a daft question but can you use solid-core wiring? Does it have to flex in use? Tinning stranded wire to insert into a terminal can cause problems as the solder creeps out under pressure, although might be OK with push-fit terminals that apply constant spring tension. I don't like simple tube ferrules in this type of terminal as they don't always apply enough pressure to maintain good contact between ferrule and cable. So I would definitely look at options to at least make the last hop of wiring into the socket with solid.

 

[Oikos100]

Thanks - I wanted to use braided cable and I don't think that comes solid. There will be several strands hanging down for a cluster light so It's a major feature of the light. I've read a few places where people have successfully folded and twisted the strands for push fit so that may be my only option.
Thanks

 

[DPG]

I'd personally very lightly tin the strands. Obviously I've not seen it first hand though. And you would need to be sure that the terminal had a good form hold.