Help with hall wiring

[mm190788@gmail]

Hi I moved into my new flat and have had to decorate and repair so much, it had a tube light fixture in the kitchen (open plan living room and kitchen) fitted a ceiling rose no issue and have changed the 3 light switches to brushed stainless steel no issue I have changed all the plug sockets to match no issue. Just finished the hall decorating so gone to do the same and like a numpty before I started to take it apart I didnt take a picture and cannot get both switches to work. 1st switch is a single switch which controls the light in the hall second switch is 2 gang and controls the hall and bathroom light I'll post pictures strangely I can only find 1 live wire!! Please can someone help I'm close to rubbing my eyes on a pebble dashed wall!! Below is the wiring the 4 wires is for the 2 gang switch and the 3 wire for the normal switch and at the bottom are the switches I want to replace the originals with but cant even get the original switches to work properly what do I do? Oh the power is switched off to the light switches btw. I know once someone says it I'll be kicking myself I have mental healt problems and took this on whilst I can't concentrate properly

 

[littlespark]

Unfortunately there are so many different ways for lights to be wired it would be a stab in the dark for any of us to advise.
Maybe one of the members is local to you?

for clarity. Can you confirm the 2 gang switch controls bathroom and hall, the 1 gang just the hall? The hall light controlled at 2 switches.

 

[Snailspark]

Picture number 3 doesn’t look right to me - it looks like the live link feed for the second light so should be linked from one switch to the other and permanent live goes into one of those so your supply live can feed both switches. All the cables should be marked as live too as they will all be live feeds or switched lives or strappers

 

[mm190788@gmail]

Unfortunately there are so many different ways for lights to be wired it would be a stab in the dark for any of us to advise.
Maybe one of the members is local to you?

for clarity. Can you confirm the 2 gang switch controls bathroom and hall, the 1 gang just the hall? The hall light controlled at 2 switches.

Yes The hall as a 1 gang outside the living room door and the 2 gang is at the front door which controls the bathroom light and kitchen. I asked my grandad to come have a look for me but he won't I know its something so simple I just can't focus enough at the moment. I just can't believe I didnt take a picture I always take a picture ?‍
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Yes The hall as a 1 gang outside the living room door and the 2 gang is at the front door which controls the bathroom light and bathroom. I asked my grandad to come have a look for me but he won't I know its something so simple I just can't focus enough at the moment. I just can't believe I didnt take a picture I always take a picture ?‍

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Picture number 3 doesn’t look right to me - it looks like the live link feed for the second light so should be linked from one switch to the other and permanent live goes into one of those so your supply live can feed both switches. All the cables should be marked as live too as they will all be live feeds or switched lives or strappers

That light switch I didn't touch that bridge so that's where it was
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Yes The hall as a 1 gang outside the living room door and the 2 gang is at the front door which controls the bathroom light and kitchen. I asked my grandad to come have a look for me but he won't I know its something so simple I just can't focus enough at the moment. I just can't believe I didnt take a picture I always take a picture ?‍
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That light switch I didn't touch that bridge so that's where it was also the other black wire did have red tape on its fallen off got some coming as its regulatory to have the switched live marked

 

[pc1966]

It is pretty hard without being able to test things!

I suspect the one with 2*red and 1*black you will find that one red/black pair is a T&E running to the double switch, and they would go to the L1/L2 terminals of one half of the double switch, and to the L1/L2 of the single switch.

On the double switch the common of both halves there ought to have the red link wire and go to your "permanent live" red.

That would leave the remaining black (maybe "bathroom switched live") of the double switch to go to L1 (probably) of the other switch. Or L2 if it works upside-down!

And the 3-wire set would have the lone red going to C (common) of the single switch.

But that is simply a guess!

 

[littlespark]

Ah.. ok... your original post said both switch positions controlled the hall, which i assumed meant it was a 2 way switch.

If all the switches are normal 1 way.... disregard the terminals marked as 2 way... you dont need them.

That just leaves you with Commons (for the lives) and 1way terminals... for the switch wires.

The 2 gang switch is essentially 2 separate switches, so will need a link between the 2 commons... Where the link is just now doesnt make sense.

 

[Baddegg]

As above is that where the link was in the original setup or have you put that there??

 

[mm190788@gmail]

Ah.. ok... your original post said both switch positions controlled the hall, which i assumed meant it was a 2 way switch.

If all the switches are normal 1 way.... disregard the terminals marked as 2 way... you dont need them.

That just leaves you with Commons (for the lives) and 1way terminals... for the switch wires.

The 2 gang switch is essentially 2 separate switches, so will need a link between the 2 commons... Where the link is just now doesnt make sense.

I know that's what I thought the link should go to the other common with the single permanent live going in the common point
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As above is that where the link was in the original setup or have you put that there??

No the link is untouched

 

[telectrix]

i could sort you that in under 1 hour. butPreston is a tad far for me. maybe a forum member is closer and can help.

 

[mm190788@gmail]

Ok so excuse my crappy picture from listening to you all does this make sense?