how am i supposed to bond the main water when it comes into the house in plastic

[chris-]

hi people,
How/ why am i supposed to bond the main water when it comes into the house in plastic. i thought it would be a deviation but ive now been told by a guy who said that the niceic said to bond the plastic pipe as the power supliers recomend it.

 

[topquark]

You're not supposed to bond it. If it comes into the house in plastic, bonding it is the wrong thing to do. Ask the NICEIC guy to talk to one of his technical guys.

 

[somersetsparks]

If you have no metal pipework or just metal facings (the bits of pipe sticking out of the walls)
then there is no need,
Bonding plastic pipe achieves nothing

 

[Dave 85]

Ive always bonded all exposed plastic in the houses I've worked in, doors, window frames, cat flaps, shower trays, Tv's toothbrushes the lot....are you telling me I've been wasting my time all these years?

 

[Guest55]

......................a guy who said that the niceic said..............

It all when horribly wrong at this point ^^^^

Please give this guy my special award..........

 

[Strima]

Cut 100mm out of the plastic pipe, insert 100mm of copper and bond to that taking into account the 600mm rule.

I've found pipe freezing kits are handy for this kind of job.

 

[sedgy34]

If you have no metal pipework or just metal facings (the bits of pipe sticking out of the walls)
then there is no need,
Bonding plastic pipe achieves nothing

it does echieve something its called stupidity

 

[sedgy34]

Ive always bonded all exposed plastic in the houses I've worked in, doors, window frames, cat flaps, shower trays, Tv's toothbrushes the lot....are you telling me I've been wasting my time all these years?

at least you saved TC from being ZAPPED!!!!:hurray:

 

[sedgy34]

cut 100mm out of the plastic pipe, insert 100mm of copper and bond to that taking into account the 600mm rule.

I've found pipe freezing kits are handy for this kind of job.

so you are a plumber!!!

 

[SirKit Breaker]

It would appear that someone has overlooked the purpose of main bonding. Just think about what it is there for, and then you will realise why bonding a non conductive material is pointless.

Cheers...............Howard

 

[sedgy34]

hi people,
How/ why am i supposed to bond the main water when it comes into the house in plastic. i thought it would be a deviation but ive now been told by a guy who said that the niceic said to bond the plastic pipe as the power supliers recomend it.

Hi chris, YES!! you do have to bond it cause the guy who told you what the niceic guy said is what the guy said to the niceic guy who then told me and then he told me to tell you if you were to come and post that what you have posted but you might aswell just bond it IMO i think others will clarify what im saying cause a guy told us before who was told by an niceic guy.
hope this helps

 

[Wicksyp]

why not bond it with a plastic cable tie and run a bit of fishing line from that to the lid of the plastic CU then stick it with PVC tape in earth colours
Job done
Hope this helps
Wicksy

 

[Paul.M]

why not bond it with a plastic cable tie and run a bit of fishing line from that to the lid of the plastic CU then stick it with PVC tape in earth colours
Job done
Hope this helps
Wicksy

That is completely against the regs, how dare you suggest such a thing!

All earthing conductors must be green & yellow and I've never seen a cable tie in those colours. Completely against the regs lol :rofl:

 

[Strima]

so you are a plumber!!!

Bugger, I've been sussed... :lol:

 

[craigj85]

You need to do a conductivity test on the plastic pipe. If you get a reading then you have to bond it. That's the usual procedure :mad2:

 

[telectrix]

and if it's in andre previn's house, you'll have to bond him as well, coz he's a good conductor.

 

[Top Cat]

and if it's in andre previn's house, you'll have to bond him as well, coz he's a good conductor.

We may have to explain who Andre Previn is to some of the younger ones:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7yb-JncKow

 

[Des 56]

Did Nic guy mean to say

If the incoming service pipes are made of plastic, they
do not need to be main bonded.
If the incoming pipes are made of plastic, but the
pipes within the electrical installation are made of
metal, the main bonding must be carried out. The
bonding being applied on the customer side of any
meter, main stopcock or insulating insert and of
course to the metal pipes of the installation.

 

[Moses]

Ive always bonded all exposed plastic in the houses I've worked in, doors, window frames, cat flaps, shower trays, Tv's toothbrushes the lot....are you telling me I've been wasting my time all these years?

You have done well mate!

A few more like you and our profession could be classed as professionals!!

Any ways, some on here may say you may have gone a little overboard, but I wouldn't listen to them.

You stick to your guns. well done mate!!!

 

[Top Cat]

I know we can all see the funny side of this post but that is another guy that will probably never post again. Out of 17 replies only 2 gave constructive advice!