install 10 electric shower (8.5kw) in one hotel

[jean-marc]

Hi i would like to know if is possible to install 10 electric shower (8.5kw) in one hotel if is possible what changes do I have to make to the general electrical distribution board

Thank you

 

[Pete999]

Get an Electrician in to survey and plan the works required to install these showers.

 

[Deleted account]

I come across this all the time. The answer is generally no, but as pete999 says it needs a survey by competent person.

If you only have one phase then I would recommend no more than 2 but even that depends on the loading in the rest of hotel.

 

[jean-marc]

i just need a diagram and the modification

 

[jean-marc]

I come across this all the time. The answer is generally no, but as pete999 says it needs a survey by competent person.

If you only have one phase then I would recommend no more than 2 but even that depends on the loading in the rest of hotel.

is 80A FROM EDF NORMAL...

 

[jean-marc]

is 80A FROM EDF NORMAL...

 

[Deleted account]

Yes it’s normal. If it’s 80A I would probably only recommend 1 electric shower depending on load of rest of hotel.

 

[Pete999]

i just need a diagram and the modification

jean-marc. forgive me if I have the wrong end of the stick here, but it seems from the question above "I just need a diagram and the modification" , that you intend going ahead with your plans regardless of the advice given so far, is that correct?

 

[jean-marc]

I ASKED FOR ADVICE'S BUT NO ONE IS ABLE TO GIVE ME ONE
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT TO DO SIMPLE IF YOU CAN HELP YOU WELCOME IF NOT THAT FINE

 

[Deleted account]

Hi jean- mark.
I’ve given advice based on information supplied. 1 shower possibly 2 depending on load of the rest of hotel. In order to know this load you will have to get a competent spark in to physically calculate.

What more advice do you require?

Pete

 

[Pete999]

I ASKED FOR ADVICE'S BUT NO ONE IS ABLE TO GIVE ME ONE
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT TO DO SIMPLE IF YOU CAN HELP YOU WELCOME IF NOT THAT FINE

You have been given the right advice by Members, you need a survey by both the DNO and a qualified Electrical Contractor, if you choose not to agree with the advice, and go ahead regardless, then on your head be it, oh and stop shouting,

 

[telectrix]

I ASKED FOR ADVICE'S BUT NO ONE IS ABLE TO GIVE ME ONE
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT TO DO SIMPLE IF YOU CAN HELP YOU WELCOME IF NOT THAT FINE

so you're planning on installing a total load of 350A onto what is probably a 100A supply. buy a pack of BS1361-II fuses or speed dial your local DNO.

 

[jean-marc]

THANK YOU PETE I THINK THE SAME

 

[Deleted account]

THANK YOU PETE I THINK THE SAME

Which pete

 

[telectrix]

THANK YOU PETE I THINK THE SAME

turn your caps off. (it's a magic button left side, next to "A". says caps lock on it)

 

[pirate]

OH, IS THAT WHAT THAT BUTTON IS FOR, THEN?
BRILLIANT!

 

[jean-marc]

OK THAT FINE I WILL INSTALL A CENTRAL HEATING SYSTEM
THANK YOU ALL

 

[Deleted account]

OK THAT FINE I WILL INSTALL A CENTRAL HEATING SYSTEM
THANK YOU ALL

!

 

[Baddegg]

OK THAT FINE I WILL INSTALL A CENTRAL HEATING SYSTEM
THANK YOU ALL

Ummm what?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I wonder how many Combi boilers would be needed to run 10 showers effectively?

 

[telectrix]

every sunday morning i see about 10 old boilers jogging. i think the idea is to keep fit longer and be coffin dodgers, but from the look of stress on their mushes, i don't think they'll last for much longer.

 

[HappyHippyDad]

Hi i would like to know if is possible to install 10 electric shower (8.5kw) in one hotel if is possible what changes do I have to make to the general electrical distribution board

Thank you

Hi everyone,
Could I have lots of free advice please including diagrams.
I know it's Sunday morning and you've all been hard at work all week but if you could just give me the advice I need now that would be great. Oh, by the way I will SHOUT AT YOU IF YOU DON'T.
Many thanks.

 

[telectrix]

it's OK, the hotel is owned by as bloke named Basil, married to Sybil. they have a Spanish waiter called Manual. all OP needs to do is CTFM (consult the f*cking manual).

 

[Andy78]

I can understand this bloke's frustration. I've been on a classic mini forum asking how to put a tractor engine in one. I just wanted diagrams and for them to tell me how, but they kept telling me answers I wasn't asking for. Some people.

 

[Pete999]

I can understand this bloke's frustration. I've been on a classic mini forum asking how to put a tractor engine in one. I just wanted diagrams and for them to tell me how, but they kept telling me answers I wasn't asking for. Some people.

Yes but this Bloke doesn't have a clue, whereas you might have a clue on how to fit a Tractor engine into a Mini, and were just asking for opinions. Forum rules don't give us the luxury pf giving out how to advice Andy78, and on top of that, Matey got all wound up, the advice given was sound advice, well meant, it was like, "tell me what to do, and I'll do it my way anyhow".

 

[ruston]

I can understand this bloke's frustration. I've been on a classic mini forum asking how to put a tractor engine in one. I just wanted diagrams and for them to tell me how, but they kept telling me answers I wasn't asking for. Some people.

It's easy Andy , we managed to put a CAT tyre on this pick up.
Ps. This is a stock photo, but we did similar to this for a site safety film.

 

[Andy78]

Yes but this Bloke doesn't have a clue, whereas you might have a clue on how to fit a Tractor engine into a Mini, and were just asking for opinions. Forum rules don't give us the luxury pf giving out how to advice Andy78, and on top of that, Matey got all wound up, the advice given was sound advice, well meant, it was like, "tell me what to do, and I'll do it my way anyhow".

Was a joke Pete. I was likening matey's request to putting a tractor engine in a mini. Sarcasm never translates well over the internet.

 

[GBDamo]

Ummm what?

I THINK HE MEANS PLUMBING BARMITZVAS IN PLACE OF THE ELECTRIC SHOWERS AND PLUMBING IN HOT WATER FROM A CENTRAL SOURCE.

OR

HE COULD BE PUTTING A RADIATOR IN EACH SHOWER THAT THE GUSET CAN GUG WHILE GETTING A COLD SHOWER.

 

[Baddegg]

I THINK HE MEANS PLUMBING BARMITZVAS IN PLACE OF THE ELECTRIC SHOWERS AND PLUMBING IN HOT WATER FROM A CENTRAL SOURCE.

OR

HE COULD BE PUTTING A RADIATOR IN EACH SHOWER THAT THE GUSET CAN GUG WHILE GETTING A COLD SHOWER.

Ahhhhhhh.......he’ll want the wet pants forum now then......that’ll go just as well I’m sure

 

[Pete999]

Was a joke Pete. I was likening matey's request to putting a tractor engine in a mini. Sarcasm never translates well over the internet.

I did wonder Andy

 

[Des 56]

OK THAT FINE I WILL INSTALL A CENTRAL HEATING SYSTEM
THANK YOU ALL

NEXT PLEASE

 

[Pete999]

I THINK HE MEANS PLUMBING BARMITZVAS IN PLACE OF THE ELECTRIC SHOWERS AND PLUMBING IN HOT WATER FROM A CENTRAL SOURCE.

OR

HE COULD BE PUTTING A RADIATOR IN EACH SHOWER THAT THE GUSET CAN GUG WHILE GETTING A COLD SHOWER.

I THINK HE MEANS PLUMBING BARMITZVAS IN PLACE OF THE ELECTRIC SHOWERS AND PLUMBING IN HOT WATER FROM A CENTRAL SOURCE.

OR

HE COULD BE PUTTING A RADIATOR IN EACH SHOWER THAT THE GUSET CAN GUG WHILE GETTING A COLD SHOWER.

"Guset can Gug" WTH does that translate to in English GBDamo?

 

[Baddegg]

Guest can hug, I’d guess @Pete999........been reading buzz posts for to long!

 

[GBDamo]

"Guset can Gug" WTH does that translate to in English GBDamo?

Guest can hug, I’d guess @Pete999........been reading buzz posts for to long!

THIS

 

[Toneyz]

I ASKED FOR ADVICE'S BUT NO ONE IS ABLE TO GIVE ME ONE
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT TO DO SIMPLE IF YOU CAN HELP YOU WELCOME IF NOT THAT FINE

WELL GIVE US SOME ADVICE ON THE EXISTING SUPPLY 3 PHASE/SINGLE PHASE. EXISTING LOAD. EXISTING CUT OUT FUSE. CAN THE EXISTING BE UPGRADED IF NECESSARY?

 

[Toneyz]

it's OK, the hotel is owned by as bloke named Basil, married to Sybil. they have a Spanish waiter called Manual. all OP needs to do is CTFM (consult the f*cking manual).

Classic Tel

 

[ackbarthestar]

He said something about gas ...........

 

[Pete999]

He said something about gas ...........

Who did?

 

[123]

Sounds more like a B&B if it's only 10 rooms. Chances of the water supply being able to do 10 electric showers are about as slim as the chances of the electrical supply being able to do it.

It might all work fine until the place gets a block booking, with most showers likely to be needed at very similar times

 

[Deleted member 9648]

The OP probably only wants confirmation of what he's already decided. Chances are he's posted the same question on 10 forums and if one comes back with a go that'll be the one he'll accept, ignoring the other 9.

 

[Pete999]

The OP probably only wants confirmation of what he's already decided. Chances are he's posted the same question on 10 forums and if one comes back with a go that'll be the one he'll accept, ignoring the other 9.

Agree a chancer by any other name

 

[ackbarthestar]

Who did?

Here ............

OK THAT FINE I WILL INSTALL A CENTRAL HEATING SYSTEM
THANK YOU ALL

and that would be the most sensible solution .... IMO

 

[GBDamo]

Sounds more like a B&B if it's only 10 rooms. Chances of the water supply being able to do 10 electric showers are about as slim as the chances of the electrical supply being able to do it.

It might all work fine until the place gets a block booking, with most showers likely to be needed at very similar times

Easy, 500L(ish) tank and a pumped circulation.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

I rejected a large hotel near us who wanted 5 8.7kW showers installed as part of adaptation works. 200A 3P Supply. Would have possibly handled it just about but woukd have been irrisponsible to do it with the existing loading. Already combi showers in so had to reinstall new ones with flow switches for the pumps.

Dont see many hotels with electric showers.

 

[ChrisElectrical88]

And after reading the whole thread, i hope he puts them in and learns the hard way, the clown

 

[123]

Easy, 500L(ish) tank and a pumped circulation.

Yes...but that's not the same as 10 Electric showers. It's 0 Electric Showers, and unless tank is electrically heated (daft) no stress on the electrical supply

 

[MJPD29]

This isn't something anyone could answer without a site visit so realistically there is no point in trying to give you advice as no one here has a crystal ball (that I'm aware of). Also with caps on It feels like your screaming at me

 

[Markyd]

Has he gone......made me jump

 

[dmxtothemax]

Hi i would like to know if is possible to install 10 electric shower (8.5kw) in one hotel if is possible what changes do I have to make to the general electrical distribution board.

Most likely not !
Not without significant upgrades to your main DB and power feed.
Not cheap not easy but do-able.

what is your current service rated at ?
what is your current loading ?
is your service single phase or three phase ?

 

[DPG]

I'm refusing to comment on this one, as I may have to sod-off shortly afterwards.