Is this the worst install you have ever seen? *Feedback wanted!*

[rmc86uk]

Hi everyone,

I would very much appreciate your feedback/comments regarding this electricial install to help my cousin who has been ripped off and potentially could have put her life at risk!

She has recently had new decking fitted in the back garden and a family friend of hers who I kind of know put in the electrics for the outside lighting. This kid has being doing electrics since leaving school (approx 10years) and I know the firm he served his time with and I have come accross his work before!

He has installed outside lights to the decking in 1.5mm and took the feed straight from a kitchen socket under the sink and cut the earth out. He's then run it to an outside two gang switch (to which only one gang was needed) he then took the feed out of the switch in 2.5mm and fed every metal* light fitting reducing the cable size to 1.5mm then back to 2.5mm. He has cut off every earth at every connection point terminated in connectors and left them out in the open...yes in the open! He has made so many connections in connector blocks and failed to connect the earths from the fittings.

I had to go round earlier to see for myself as I did not believe that he had done such disgusting work when my cousin told me. I have asked for her permission to put these photos up and would like some feedback off other electricians.

I have uploaded some photos to show you how bad this install is.

Thanks












If the photos are not clear enough you can view them by clicking below

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[Des 56]

Images sorted thanks

 

[Lighthouse Phil]

your having a laugh....A plumber would do a better job

 

[DaveyD]

If the pictures were bigger,us old timers could have joined the thread
Got a spare pair of binoculars :shades_smile:

Click to enlarge in new window/tab Des.

 

[ste mac]

Shocking, well it will be when it rains!!

Free electric fence with every set of outdoor lights!!!

 

[DaveyD]

Seriously; an electrician for 10 years?

 

[rmc86uk]

The link to the pictures is here ImageShack® - rmc86uk's Profile Page

You should be able to see them in full view!

Thanks

 

[Taylortwocities]

Perfectly dreadful.
And dangerous. I hope you left it disconnected.

 

[ste mac]

More like 10 year old electrician!!!!

 

[alarm man]

he's your mate,shes your cousin what do you want us to do...

 

[Des 56]

How much did "he" pay her to do that
Why did she not have you in the first place?

 

[Silly Sausage]

??????

 

[Strima]

Where are you located mate? That is shocking, excuse the pun.

I would quite happily come round free of charge to inspect and issue any necessary paperwork which you can then pass to LABC and trading standards.

In my short itme I've seen some dodgy work but that's just taking the ****.

I'm guessing you've disconnected it all?

 

[DaveyD]

Please,could somebody tell me how to enlarge those pics :dunce2:
I cant see a damn thing :bigcry:

left double click

 

[Guest111]

the question is this "Is he time served or about to serve time?" is he supposed to be a spark or is he training as a hitman?

 

[rmc86uk]

Where are you located mate? That is shocking, excuse the pun.

I would quite happily come round free of charge to inspect and issue any necessary paperwork which you can then pass to LABC and trading standards.

In my short itme I've seen some dodgy work but that's just taking the ****.

I'm guessing you've disconnected it all?

I'm up at Sheffield pal, I'm not too familiar about the domestics Part P side and building control but I have disconnected it thank god!


Just to clarify to one of the above members this is not my mate who installed this I know him only very vaguely! I was more concerned for my cousins safety!

 

[Richard Burns]

That is absolutely abysmal. I would expect a teenage diyer to do a better job than that.
Demonstrates a total lack of understanding of anything electrical.

 

[rmc86uk]

How much did "he" pay her to do that
Why did she not have you in the first place?

Hi Des 56,

I am not registered to do this kind of work in homes with regards to the schemes and Part P.

 

[Strima]

I should have added impartial into my post, that way there's no grey area when he claims someone is out to get him...

 

[sparks1973]

Seriously; an electrician for 10 years?

i`m sorry but i cant see it....even a bad sparks wouldn`t be that bad......looks like a chimp has done it.....

 

[sparks1973]

which scheme is he with.....they need to see this....

 

[ste mac]

You would have been better doing the install, part p or no part p.

There is NO way that install has ever been certified or notified!

 

[rmc86uk]

which scheme is he with.....they need to see this....

I don't think he is with a scheme and i'm sure he'd struggle to get one!

 

[sparks1973]

well you couldn`t even attempt a test on that could you.....

 

[sparks1973]

I don't think he is with a scheme and i'm sure he'd struggle to get one!

you would have been better doing it....but i dont think this turnip should be installing...in any capacity...

 

[jonnyboy1]

Terrible standard of work and personally if I was the customer here I would get trading standards in as this is worse than the builders electrics they had on cowboy builders.

To fix this job I would start from scratch
all cables wired in swa enclosed in kopex underground
All joints in suitable ip rated enclosure, with artic or reinforced flex glanded out ip enclosure to light fittings.

Switching
is there any local light switches I.e outside light if so drill through for your feed either fix swa to wall using cleats or enclose in 20/25mm PVC conduit with end box

And make sure you get your money back

 

[rmc86uk]

Terrible standard of work and personally if I was the customer here I would get trading standards in as this is worse than the builders electrics they had on cowboy builders.

To fix this job I would start from scratch
all cables wired in swa enclosed in kopex underground
All joints in suitable ip rated enclosure, with artic or reinforced flex glanded out ip enclosure to light fittings.

Switching
is there any local light switches I.e outside light if so drill through for your feed either fix swa to wall using cleats or enclose in 20/25mm PVC conduit with end box

And make sure you get your money back

Thanks for your reply Jon I have told her to rip it out and demand all of the £1100 back from him as he has also done some other work to the garden like turfing and concreting and messed that up aswell!

I advised on a similar installation you have come up with when I was round earlier but take a supply to the shed and have power and lighting in there and a feed off this for the decking lights.

When she asked for receipts off him he just wrote figures down on a piece of paper as they could not justify the amounts he had spent. He then put in receipts for tools such as rachet, toolbag, wood saw, screwdrivers and a £50 B&Q voucher! It really does puzzle us what he's been upto!



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[Octopus]

Why did your cousin pay him? Surely she was not happy with the look from the "outside".

 

[rmc86uk]

He was paid up front by my Auntie, I think it's going to be a struggle to get their money back but I'm sure the HSE would like to hear about it!

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[malcolmsanford]

I wouldn't have minded but I told him to put some tape around those choc blocks ....................last time I answer a thread starting with

"I've been asked to do some outside lights for a friend ................."

 

[Taylortwocities]

Tell him to repay the money or you will report him to the Local Authority. This is notifiable work and he won't have notified. So that's one law broken, not to mention the dangerous nature of the work.

And are those flood lamps really meant to go in those lanterns, i don't think so.

 

[kingeri]

I can just picture a kiddie poking their little fingers into one of those terminal blocks, or even putting one in their mouth. Whoever did that should serve time behind bars.

 

[Guest111]

I can just picture a kiddie poking their little fingers into one of those terminal blocks, or even putting one in their mouth. Whoever did that should serve time behind bars.

If he,d done a job like that for one of my relations it would be me behind bars,he,d be in intensive care!

 

[Jim_Tyne_Wear]

Unbelievable!! Whoever did that wiring really should be reported to necessary authorities....for their OWN safety, if no one elses!

 

[Swicade]

it's total tripe....my 11yr old son would design and install it better than that and that's with no training he just watched me around the house.

A child wouldn't even need to poke around the connectors...one trip on the decking with arms held out to break the fall and they'd stand a good chance of grabbing the unclipped cable's and ripping them out for starters.

Wrong bulb's,no earth's,no testing,no clipping,no basic cable protection,bad design,no water proofing of joints (not even a diyers insulation tape)....sure i've missed afew more bad/dangerous points.(i'd need that Clive Holland guy from cowboy trap to make it sound extra,extra dangerous to scare you more)

Also the legal side of no notification.

Nothing good to say at all.

 

[drew35]

Its hard to believe that anybody would carry out work to that sub sub sub standard level! Was he trying to kill somebody??? None of its right, he couldn't even get the right bulb for f sake!!! Exposed live connections outside??? You need to find this person and break his thumbs to stop him doing it again. . . . . !

 

[Strima]

There is a definite need to name and shame this individual.

 

[frank3323]

i thought all that part P rubbish was meant to stop this kind of thing??

 

[Mark_Burgess]

Personally, i'd get him back on the promise of some more work, then beat his head against every fitting or accessory he has fitted until you get the money back.

 

[Silly Sausage]

He's probably spent it all on drugs by now!

 

[Knobhead]

“Feedback needed”, well you’ve got it. Now what are you going to do about it?

 

[DaveyD]

This kid has being doing electrics since leaving school (approx 10years) and I know the firm he served his time with and I have come accross his work before!

So to clarify - are you saying he is a time served / apprentice electrician?

 

[telectrix]

10 years and hasn't got a clue. imagine how much more dangerous he'll be after 20 years. he wants stopping before he kills asomeone.

 

[Engineer54]

I don't believe for a second this abysmal work has been carried out by a time served electrician. He may well have started out in the trade but he certainly didn't come anywhere near finishing or completing an apprenticeship!! ...Or the company he was apprenticed to, were little better than him ...lol!!!

As Tel stated, this guy needs taking out of circulation, ...the sooner the better!!
Report the bugger to anyone and everyone that can even remotely achieve that end...

 

[kellogs64]

nice , you got his number , i need my bath tub wiring lol

 

[pmanku]

Worst ? ..no, quite often find substandard work similar to this. Builders, kitchen fitters, diy bodgers list is endless, everyone ones a spark, after all as long as the light comes on or the socket works who cares a ----, certainly not the customer. This type of work is usually price driven or on rare occasions customer's ignorance or a rip off.

He may have 10 years experience but he is a danger to himself and the public. This country is not investing in our youth, who will be tomorrows electricians, plumbers, gas engineers and the like. I shudder to think what the level of competency to expect in 20 years time when the chickens come home to roost.

 

[H3WJA]

That is a quality installation COWBOY

 

[chocca]

Fascinating example of how to wire an installation if you're a mafia hitman...

 

[CLB]

What a shocker! He should be ..... :56:

 

[dontknowitall]

your having a laugh....A plumber would do a better job

You bet we would!!!

Even your average DIYer could do better.