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It's Erwin Rommel. Not a great choice of avatar in my opinion, but there you go.D Skelton why do you have a picture of what appears to be an SS officer as your avatar?
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It's Erwin Rommel. Not a great choice of avatar in my opinion, but there you go.D Skelton why do you have a picture of what appears to be an SS officer as your avatar?
ALL of my customers understand pv better than some posting on this forum, which is embarrassing for the profession to say the least and insulting to the integrity of my customers to imply anything else.
Initially I found the claims amusing, although many posts later I realised that only sad installers would read past the first few posts and the Daily Mail view of how poor pv systems are. It doesn't help a struggling industry to have so many ill-informed views perpetuated by other electricians.
D Skelton why do you have a picture of what appears to be an SS officer as your avatar?
I don't get this thread, it's all over the place mainly due to Mr Skelton's blanket bombing approach when he started it I suspect. Bit strange because he's usually pretty focused in his postings.
I have a question though, what motivated the govt to start subsidising PV installations with FIT's in the first place?
What has that got to do with this thread exactly ?, Rommel wasn't in the SS FYI, another one playing the man instead of the ball.
Fair enough all of the regulars on this section have a vested interest in your chosen field, and will defend it, but some on here resorting to ad hominem attacks is frankly undermining your arguments.
Gavin A at least came back with reasoned responses, by all means defend your own interests with reasonable counter-arguments, but turning this into a witch hunt just makes you look bad.
a rare moment of clarity by Ed Milliband after years of spectacularly bad government support schemes previously that did barely anything to increase solar uptake, the number of companies in the market or reduce prices.I have a question though, what motivated the govt to start subsidising PV installations with FIT's in the first place?
Maybe that should have been sent by pm, it was not intended as a witch hunt, I was curious. I did say "appears to be" as I assumed it was not a glorification.
I meant I should have asked about his avatar by pm.Why should I have replied by PM ?, I was responding on an open forum to a remark you made on an open forum.
that'd be Rommel, a great German General, well known for his time in the desert.D Skelton why do you have a picture of what appears to be an SS officer as your avatar?
By the beginning of 1943, Rommel's faith in Germany's ability to win the war was crumbling, as was his estimation of Hitler. Touring Germany, Rommel was appalled at the devastation of the Allied bombing raids and the erosion of the peoples' morale. He also learned for the first time of the death camps, slave labor, the extermination of the Jews and the other atrocities of the ---- regime. Rommel became convinced that victory for Germany was a lost cause and that prolonging the war would lead only to his homeland's devastation. He came in contact with members of a growing conspiracy dedicated to ousting Hitler and establishing a separate peace with the western allies.
On July 17, 1944, British aircraft strafed Rommel's staff car, severely wounding the Field Marshall. He was taken to a hospital and then to his home in Germany to convalesce. Three days later, an assassin's bomb nearly killed Hitler during a strategy meeting at his headquarters in East Prussia. In the gory reprisals that followed, some suspects implicated Rommel in the plot. Although he may not have been aware of the attempt on Hitler's life, his "defeatist" attitude was enough to warrant Hitler's wrath. The problem for Hitler was how to eliminate Germany's most popular general without revealing to the German people that he had ordered his death. The solution was to force Rommel to commit suicide and announce that his death was due to his battle wounds.
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/rommel.htmAt about twelve o'clock a dark-green car with a Berlin number stopped in front of our garden gate. The only men in the house apart from my father, were Captain Aldinger[ Rommel's aide], a badly wounded war-veteran corporal and myself. Two generals - Burgdorf, a powerful florid man, and Maisel, small and slender - alighted from the car and entered the house. They were respectful and courteous and asked my father's permission to speak to him alone. Aldinger and I left the room. 'So they are not going to arrest him,' I thought with relief, as I went upstairs to find myself a book.A few minutes later I heard my father come upstairs and go into my mother's room. Anxious to know what was afoot, I got up and followed him. He was standing in the middle of the room, his face pale. 'Come outside with me,' he said in a tight voice. We went into my room. 'I have just had to tell your mother,' he began slowly, 'that I shall be dead in a quarter of an hour.' He was calm as he continued: 'To die by the hand of one's own people is hard. But the house is surrounded and Hitler is charging me with high treason. ' "In view of my services in Africa," ' he quoted sarcastically, 'I am to have the chance of dying by poison. The two generals have brought it with them. It's fatal in three seconds. If I accept, none of the usual steps will be taken against my family, that is against you. They will also leave my staff alone.''Do you believe it?' I interrupted. 'Yes,' he replied. 'I believe it. It is very much in their interest to see that the affair does not come out into the open. By the way, I have been charged to put you under a promise of the strictest silence. If a single word of this comes out, they will no longer feel themselves bound by the agreement.'I tried again. 'Can't we defend ourselves…' He cut me off short. 'There's no point,' he said. 'It's better for one to die than for all of us to be killed in a shooting affray. Anyway, we've practically no ammunition.' We briefly took leave of each other. 'Call Aldinger, please,' he said.
"I shall be dead
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Some of the comments made I must say give a very bad impression of this technology, and smacks of either insecurity and a "defend the Hive" mentality, or a lot of marketing BS.
Very True, I have actually enjoyed the vast majority of the thread and learned a fair bit from one or two Members here, a couple of ****s are in here with personality problems otherwise a good crowd, I think I will read this forum more often as I find the whole PV thing interesting, Thanks to those involved.Personal attacks and insults aside, this thread - the active debate, challenging dogma and counter claim checking - has done more to promote solar pv than any glossy brochure or whiny article in the paper. I tend to read these things and subconsciously see [SUP][citation needed] [/SUP]everywhere. It was nice not to have to do that occasionally, for a change.
Thanks to the main protagonists in this, an interesting and enlightening read.
Which comments, specifically, gave you that idea?
The only people dealing with facts in this thread are the installers.
It shouldn't surprise you that people react robustly to someone who clearly knows so little about a subject yet is so confident and strident in telling us that we have it wrong.
My company has undertaken none as we don't have any interest in PV, however very early on in my career I personally helped out with fitting and installation on a handful of them. Why do you ask?
I am not going to get into the specifics here, the posters concerned know who they are, and I can't be bothered to trawl all the way back through this thread.
I already said I don't have a dog in this race, I often look in on here to try to keep reasonably up to date as quite a few of my customers ask me my opinion on this subject.
Anyway what do you lot make of this ?: Web of 'green' politicians, tycoons and power brokers who help each other benefit from billions raised on your bills | Mail Online
Fair enough it is in the Daily fail (today), maybe D Skelton had a point after all ?
From what I have seen and heard, I find these figures hard to believe, especially when the average light energy intensity in the UK on a south-facing roof is around 250 Watts per square metre (I can cite many sources for this figure). How is it possible for a 4kW system to produce 3600kWh per year???
You must have one of those rubbish solar pv systems installed then ;-)
The whole green energy business is full of speculative sharks and cowboys. It is at the point where some companies are looking for fields and approaching the DNO's to find out what the capacity of the distribution network is at that point and how much generation they can fit. They are then approaching the landowner and promising huge unrealistic returns on their substantial investment. I for one cannot wait until the government screws the tarriffs down and the sharks and cowboys disappear back to where they came from. It is high time this bubble burst.
Yes appalling, If I were his next door neighbour I would be trying to get it removed from my side of the fence LOLAnyway, did you see that overhang on that PV install?
He must have those Chinese micky mouse panels (you try pronouncing name)
Sanyo are good and generate what they are rated at.
......i think a randomly chosen "lucky dip" panel has almost as much chance of performing well as a carefully chosen panel......
Not sure if it's a sign of insanity FB. but you're arguing with yourself in your last post
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