UK Kitchen Wiring Advice

[davesparks]

The chases in the pictures are not compliant with the regulations as they are not in the safe zones.

Also that looks to be very poor workmanship in my opinion and the regs do require good workmanship.

 

[radiohead]

The safe zones are very clear.
Vertically or horizontally in line with an accessory or point.
Within 150mm of the angle formed by two walls or a wall and ceiling.

 

[malcolmdixon]

The chases in the pictures are not compliant with the regulations as they are not in the safe zones.

Also that looks to be very poor workmanship in my opinion and the regs do require good workmanship.

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the reply, that is the original wiring so probably been put in before there were regs! Don't know how they're going to be routed then?? I'll have to get an electrician in, cos I can't see any safe zone way to do it!
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the best adive I can give as is to google "safe zones" for cable runs. Those chased in cables in the pictures don't look to be in right place.

Already know safe zones as Googled many times, those are the original cables that I need to replace (except cooker wiring), need advice on how to run new power in cable. No safe zone as door is in corner. Thanks for reply anyway.

 

[David Prosser]

"Already know safe zones as Googled many times, those are the original cables that I need to replace (except cooker wiring), need advice on how to run new power in cable. No safe zone as door is in corner. Thanks for reply anyway."

Move the sh1tty pipes and chase up the width of the switch plenty of room for the cables there. Plenty of safe zones in any room to get the cables around with a bit of sit down and think.

 

[malcolmdixon]

"Already know safe zones as Googled many times, those are the original cables that I need to replace (except cooker wiring), need advice on how to run new power in cable. No safe zone as door is in corner. Thanks for reply anyway."

Move the sh1tty pipes and chase up the width of the switch plenty of room for the cables there. Plenty of safe zones in any room to get the cables around with a bit of sit down and think.

Cheers Dave, Yeah those radiator pipes are going, an eyesore. That's not within the 6" from corner but is vertically inline with switch, so that is okay? Thanks for the advice.

 

[davesparks]

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the reply, that is the original wiring so probably been put in before there were regs! Don't know how they're going to be routed then?? I'll have to get an electrician in, cos I can't see any safe zone way to do it!

How on earth did you manage to remove the plaster from the original wiring without disturbing the couple of clips that are holding it back to the wall?

That looks a lot like modern cable too,

 

[telectrix]

looking at that photo showing the door, if youmove the light switch to the left, in line vertically with those cables, then you have a safe zone for them. ( or you could fit a twin socket lower down if you like).also, if there is a switch or socket on the other side of the wall, in line, then that will be an alternative safe zone, as the safe zone extends to the reverse side of a single brick wall.

 

[radiohead]

looking at that photo showing the door, if youmove the light switch to the left, in line vertically with those cables, then you have a safe zone for them. ( or you could fit a twin socket lower down if you like).also, if there is a switch or socket on the other side of the wall, in line, then that will be an alternative safe zone, as the safe zone extends to the reverse side of a single brick wall.

Only if the wall is 100mm or less thick, most plastered masonry walls are >100mm thick.

 

[malcolmdixon]

looking at that photo showing the door, if youmove the light switch to the left, in line vertically with those cables, then you have a safe zone for them. ( or you could fit a twin socket lower down if you like).also, if there is a switch or socket on the other side of the wall, in line, then that will be an alternative safe zone, as the safe zone extends to the reverse side of a single brick wall.

Brilliant telectrix, I'll move the light switch as the switch cable is not vertically inline at present anyway, plus I need to change it to loop-in switch too. Sounds like the easiest option. There is a double socket on other side of wall but as radiohead points out it's a thick wall (once exterior wall before my time). Really appreciate you guys taking time to reply. Thanks.
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How on earth did you manage to remove the plaster from the original wiring without disturbing the couple of clips that are holding it back to the wall?

That looks a lot like modern cable too,

Sorry, missed replying to this one, the plaster fairly easily came off and I was very careful. Depends which picture you are referring to though! The main two way light is new cable that has not been attached properly yet as I was waiting for answer about using conduit. Since I had an answer to that recently I can get that attached properly now. The cable with the door is old cable (don't know how old though as no electrical certificates).