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[telectrix]

this was scoffed at at the time, but how true it became:

 

[Guest77]

You can't blame god for Labour



At least I got my first pay rise after 4 years when Thatcher came to No10



The unions and the quality of what was being turned out the factory gate is what killed most of our industry, Red Robbo has a lot to answer for that guy totally screwed the Midlands car industry and Scargill tried to bring down a government while he milked the NUM and left the NUM members in poverty so much for the Labour ideals

I will never say ever I liked scargill, I didn't, when I talk about thatcher the miners situation is the last thing on my mind, the way she destroyed this country is what I refer to, all politicians are ----ers IMO, however the tories the worse of them by a million miles IMO, so up yours

 

[Guest77]

this was scoffed at at the time, but how true it became:

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Morning tel

 

[telectrix]

hi, mike. you and me. a bit like karl marx and adolph hitler, politically. or was it groucho marx? :smilielol5::smilielol5::smilielol5:

 

[Guest77]

Yeah we like disagree haha, all in fun though, I don't take it too seriously, all politicians are numpties IMO.

 

[dingledong]

We agree there

 

[dingledong]

And uncle Joe Stalin was a lot worse than uncle Adolf but I have to agree all politicians are ----ers except for good old Maggie then it just goes all the way down from the best to Tony the very very worst

 

[tidyboiler]

I thought this was going to be youtube vids of *One Born every Minute*..............:bow:

 

[Diddy]

And uncle Joe Stalin was a lot worse than uncle Adolf but I have to agree all politicians are ----ers except for good old Maggie then it just goes all the way down from the best to Tony the very very worst

A bit like the chicken and the egg scenario. She spawned him. If her ideology had not been accepted as the norm by the greedy folk who voted for her then Blair would not have turned out the way he did. She once was quoted as saying her best legacy was New Labour and Tony Blair. The fact that Cameron and the tories clapped him out of office says it all for me. Fair play though they couldn't beat him even with illegal wars under his belt. But Brown paid the price for all that.

 

[dingledong]

I honestly don't think so . I think no matter what he did he would have been a money grabbing greedy sly underhand lying evil selfish ----er

 

[Guest77]

A great prime minister

 

[trev]

The only thing I'm going to say on this thread is, Look at what you have to thank socialism for-
Universal education for every child free at the point of delivery.
Healthcare for all free at the point of delivery.
Legislation which governs the way an employer can treat their employees.
A standard working week.
The right to holidays.
Laws which govern how and when your child can be employed and the conditions they will be employed in.
Health & safety legislation
Minimum wage
I could go on but I won't. Now fair enough, some of those things are only relevant if your employed however, they all have benefited us all at some point in our lives.
Now let's look at what we have to thank Thatcherism for.
Division
Destruction of communities.
The police force being used as her private army.
The killing of several hundred young men on both sides during the Falklands conflict which she knew was coming but did nothing to avoid.
The destruction of our industry.
The sale of assets which you and I owned by virtue of our taxes.
Squandering of the money generated by north sea oil.
The UK being reduced to a betting shop style economy which led inexorably to the financial crisis of 2007/8. (caused by the banks not the government before any of the clowns start blowing that horn)
Once again, I could go on but I won't.
I'm done here.

 

[dingledong]

So brown selling gold great what socialist party are you talking about
Tony Blair and wife property speculating unfortunately my memory is not as good as yours but Labour is as bad as the Tories
So I can't think of a socialist party ,do you mean old Labour

 

[dingledong]

Start living now not in the 30's and 40's let's talk about the last ten years now what is Labour doing now stop banging on about healthcare etc that party is nothing like what they are now nothing

 

[Rockingit]

I've always described politics like this: Any *sensible* management of the western capitalist system will always end up with more or less the same size cake for the ingredients available. Politics is about who is holding the cake slice - sometimes you get a bigger bit, sometimes smaller, but it's still the same cake.

 

[Guest77]

well the last 5 years hasn't achieved anything has it? the NHS has been dismembered.

The post office sold for 3 billion under value, the Europeans making decisions about our future because Cameron vetoed it without permission from parliament, we are now looking at the decision making table from outside the window, 25 new taxes invented, 300,000 more people in poverty using food banks, more money being borrowed today than anytime in the 13 years of the new labour government, infact billions more, yet hardly mentioned by the media, tory MPs abusing police officers, passport control absolutely miles behind with a huge waiting time due to lack of civil servants because of tory cuts, the building for schools project abandoned due to cuts, Libraries closing due to cuts, costs to see your GP, tax breaks for millionaires, knight hoods for all the tory supporters, mistreatment of armed forces personel, teachers and firemen striking due to abuse of their pensions.

All politicians are ----ers, the tories the biggest by far.

 

[rapparee]

Start living now not in the 30's and 40's let's talk about the last ten years now what is Labour doing now stop banging on about healthcare etc that party is nothing like what they are now nothing

Tony blair and mo mowlam had the courage to sit down and do a peace deal with gerry adams and martin mcguinness. It was labours impartiality that gave irish nationalists the courqge to view them as honest brokers rather than adversaries, and although there was 69 bombs in northern ireland last year the good friday agreement is still in place

 

[Octopus]

Tony blair and mo mowlam had the courage to sit down and do a peace deal with gerry adams and martin mcguinness. It was labours impartiality that gave irish nationalists the courqge to view them as honest brokers rather than adversaries, and although there was 69 bombs in northern ireland last year the good friday agreement is still in place

Do you actually know who started the dialogue with the ira?

I bet you don't

It was John Major

 

[telectrix]

Do you actually know who started the dialogue with the ira?

I bet you don't

It was John Major

nothing new then, tories do all the hard work, new labour steal the credit.

 

[Guest77]

Right you lot have convinced me, I will vote Conservative like all you will at the next General election, I will turn in my Membership to the Labour party and change the curtains to Blue instead of red