Landlord's EICR query

[frontier219]

Ironically if this was a Wylex rewireable with an upfront RCD I'd probably give it a C3! (Depending on all the other factors involved, of course)
Food for thought here. I haven't sent the EICR to the agents yet and might mull it over on the weekend. I feel slightly aggrieved that I'll essentially be carrying the can, and likely doing the testing for someone else's rubbish board change.
Out of interest, if it weren't an EICR, and you went to a job where someone had had a recent board change but had fitted a single rcd CU, or a plastic CU, or something else that wouldn't raise a C2 but still clearly shouldn't have been done under the current regs, how would you handle it?

 

[DPG]

Ironically if this was a Wylex rewireable with an upfront RCD I'd probably give it a C3! (Depending on all the other factors involved, of course)
Food for thought here. I haven't sent the EICR to the agents yet and might mull it over on the weekend. I feel slightly aggrieved that I'll essentially be carrying the can, and likely doing the testing for someone else's rubbish board change.
Out of interest, if it weren't an EICR, and you went to a job where someone had had a recent board change but had fitted a single rcd CU, or a plastic CU, or something else that wouldn't raise a C2 but still clearly shouldn't have been done under the current regs, how would you handle it?

Depends what the job was. But it should be treated as per any other job. You can recommend the customer makes a complaint, but that's up to them.

 

[LukeD]

Ironically if this was a Wylex rewireable with an upfront RCD I'd probably give it a C3! (Depending on all the other factors involved, of course)
Food for thought here. I haven't sent the EICR to the agents yet and might mull it over on the weekend. I feel slightly aggrieved that I'll essentially be carrying the can, and likely doing the testing for someone else's rubbish board change.
Out of interest, if it weren't an EICR, and you went to a job where someone had had a recent board change but had fitted a single rcd CU, or a plastic CU, or something else that wouldn't raise a C2 but still clearly shouldn't have been done under the current regs, how would you handle it?

Bin the job .Life is too short , weather is good !

 

[Dustydazzler]

everything that's been has past, The answers in the looking glass. There's four and twenty million doors On life's endless corridor,

the fact someone 6 days , 6 weeks or 6 months ago installed a rubbish consumer unit is neither here or there now

just do the EICR , code as you see it and tell the letting agent that the consumer unit is rubbish and offer to chance it for a bag

 

[littlespark]

The satisfactory or unsatisfactory is in “terms of electrical safety, so I too would code it a C3.

Nuisance tripping is a different matter.

explain the best you can why you wouldn’t do it like that.

Everyday we price for all RCBO boards when a dual rcd is permissible. It’s the same explaination.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Who on earth is still fitting dual RCD boards

 

[frontier219]

Who on earth is still fitting dual RCD boards

Not this guy, he's not even fitting dual ones!

 

[davesparks]

However, on the basis that the CU must be no older than 4-5 years, this should at the very least have a split load board. Therefore I'm giving the installation a C2 on this basis.

Age of the installation does not change the coding on an EICR.

You are reporting on the suitability and safety of the installation for continued use, you are not reporting on absolute compliance with BS7671.

This is why an EICR is not permitted as a substitute for an installation certificate.


A single RCD on the whole installation is something which can be improved upon but is not potentially dangerous in any electrical sense so it is only a recommendation for improvement.

 

[davesparks]

Ironically if this was a Wylex rewireable with an upfront RCD I'd probably give it a C3! (Depending on all the other factors involved, of course)

Then you should be giving this the same coding if it is the same situation.

Would you give this same installation a C3 if you had done the EICR without knowing the back story?

I feel slightly aggrieved that I'll essentially be carrying the can, and likely doing the testing for someone else's rubbish board change.

Don't let your emotions change your EICR codings, you need to remain impartial.

You aren't carrying the can for testing someone else's board change, you're not certifying it or accepting any liability for it.
You aren't even reporting on someone else's board change, you are merely reporting on the installations suitability for continued use.

Out of interest, if it weren't an EICR, and you went to a job where someone had had a recent board change but had fitted a single rcd CU, or a plastic CU, or something else that wouldn't raise a C2 but still clearly shouldn't have been done under the current regs, how would you handle it?

I would explain to the customer what I have found and what problems there are and then discuss with them any work which needs to be done or could be done to improve things.

 

[Dustydazzler]

There are people on here who have been in the trade way longer than I , but I have noticed over my time that pretty much no 2 sparks do a PIR / EICR the same.
I reckon we could send 5 sparks to the same old house and we would get 5 different lot of findings and 5 very different lots of recommendations / Codes