Lost out to allot of work trying to follow new ever changing Regs, Part P etc

[Pete999]

Nope. Its just my opinion Pete. Such wiring is going to be as nearly as old as me, & her indoors keeps telling me I need replacing.

If I bought such a house, its probably gonna need some money spent on it, why not spend some cash on the electrics?

And if I was gonna do that, I wouldn't waste £300 or whatever on an EICR.

Good point

 

[Midwest]

Did one last year where the local light, under the stairs was wired in twin and MT. No earth to the switch or batten lampholder. No problem as far as I'm concerned.

Wouldn't of just been kinder to replace that little bit of cable, as a freebee?

 

[ipf]

Wouldn't of just been kinder to replace that little bit of cable, as a freebee?

Not really. It would have been very awkward, believe it or not, certainly without knocking things apart and making a real mess. It was a cu change, not a rewire. Used it as an example for annual NIC inspection...…...and he agreed entirely. I did put it on it's own circuit in the new board, though. He was more worried about there not being a local schedule on show and noted it on his final report even though the house owner showed it to him from a kitchen drawer.

 

[Midwest]

I have to say those local schedules are a waste of space IMO. I don't see what a properly labelled up CU, gains with a schedule for the home owner?

 

[Octopus]

I have to say those local schedules are a waste of space IMO. I don't see what a properly labelled up CU, gains with a schedule for the home owner?

And as for the "tick box" list of inspections ...................... they are a waste of time, money and paper IMHO

Plus I still come across "new" certificates without them.

 

[Toneyz]

Not really. It would have been very awkward, believe it or not, certainly without knocking things apart and making a real mess. It was a cu change, not a rewire. Used it as an example for annual NIC inspection...…...and he agreed entirely. I did put it on it's own circuit in the new board, though. He was more worried about there not being a local schedule on show and noted it on his final report even though the house owner showed it to him from a kitchen drawer.

I had that before (circuit charts)in the end we used stickers like the ones they sell.

 

[paleosparky13]

I have been asked on many occasions to add lights and sockets to an existing installation. When I tell the customer that I must change the MCB to an RCBO and then carry out a minor cert which all adds to the cost of the job, I know that he has called someone else who will just extent cables, connects what he has to connect and leave with money in his pocket. These Regulations and Part P has literally put me in a financial situation. Has anybody else experienced this?
Even though I should know this, could I just fit an RCD spur unit where I have to extent my cables, so my minor installation is up to regs, or am I responsible for all the circuit as I must test it anyway.

The reason you lose work is when sparks take their sparky hat's off and put their greedy business hat's on. Under quote a job and then send one their many apprentices round who's costs are a 20th of the overheads of a self employed sparkler. The apprentice gets a nibble of the experience carrot, the greedy pikey business man gets fuel in his shitty Audi q7 and filler tokens for his dog missuses lips and Mr honest spark gets fu ked off out of it, but meantime his tax gets to support the apprentice Mr greedy -------s is employing. Proper carve up.

 

[paleosparky13]

I have been asked on many occasions to add lights and sockets to an existing installation. When I tell the customer that I must change the MCB to an RCBO and then carry out a minor cert which all adds to the cost of the job, I know that he has called someone else who will just extent cables, connects what he has to connect and leave with money in his pocket. These Regulations and Part P has literally put me in a financial situation. Has anybody else experienced this?
Even though I should know this, could I just fit an RCD spur unit where I have to extent my cables, so my minor installation is up to regs, or am I responsible for all the circuit as I must test it anyway.

The reason you lose work is when sparks take their sparky hat's off and put their greedy business hat's on. Under quote a job and then send one their many apprentices round who's costs are a 20th of the overheads of a self employed sparkler. The apprentice gets a nibble of the experience carrot, the greedy pikey business man gets fuel in his shitty Audi q7 and filler tokens for his dog missuses lips and Mr honest spark gets fu ked off out of it, but meantime his tax gets to support the apprentice Mr greedy -------s is employing. Proper carve up.