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  1. MrPupsi
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    MrPupsi EF Member

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    So I am currently registered with the NICEIC as a domestic installer, but I need to fill in a minor works for adding a spur to an existing ring as a dental surgery.

    As I can't do this via NICEIC, can I download a model form, fill that in and give it to the client?
    I've seen a couple of model forms online which all have a 'registration number' box at the bottom of it, which I'm not sure what they're after?

    Thank you
     
  2. Pete999
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    Your NICEIC Registration number I would think. Why can't you "do it via NICEIC?"You are a member after all.
     
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  3. Midwest
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    Why can't you use the NIC on-line forms? Thats what you are paying top dollar for.

    PS if you are a domestic installer, why are you doing commercial work, or is that the rub?
     
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  4. Murdoch
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    Murdoch Electrician's Arms

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    Out of interest, why can't you use the NICEIC system?

    Edit: Beaten to it by Midwest:)
     
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    buzzlightyear still kicking sand, before pushing up daisies . Electrician's Arms

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    because it commercial .
     
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    Providing your certificate contains the same information as is contained in the model forms in BS 7671, then you can create your own. I have an Excel spreadsheet I fill in and print for minor works.

    You might also want to check with your insurer that your covered for work in commercial properties.
     
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  7. ipf
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    You're registered as a DI....are you a qualified electrician?

    If so, I can't see a problem using NIC cert, even though it's commercial.
    Then again, there is insurance cover to consider. Have a word with your provider, maybe.
     
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  8. Pete999
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    Good point regarding the Commercial aspect.
     
  9. MrPupsi
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    Hi guys, thanks for the replies.

    My insurance covers commercial work, the only reason I never registered as a domestic installer was because at the time of self employment I only had one job to show the inspector.
    Will upgrade it when I get a chance now as I've done quite a few jobs.

    So as above, as it is commercial, I can't fill in the NICEIC certificates online as they're not available to me. Only domestic ones are.

    I am qualified up to C&G 2394/5 and have been working as an electrician for almost 10 years, so more than confident so self certify as long as its an option.
     
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    So, do a domestic cert. You shouldn't be crapping y'self taking a chance on that. It's only a spurred socket, after all
     
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    try downloading this:
     

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  12. anthonybragg
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    You do not have to be an NICEIC Approved contractor to do commercial work, the OP probably belongs to the D.I. scheme only for the notification for building control.
     
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  13. anthonybragg
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    anthonybragg Electrician's Arms

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    And you don't have to use NICEIC certificates (but they like you to) as long as they are based upon the one in BS7671.
     
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    ipf Forum Mentor

    If he's got MWC's why would he need to notify?
    Not all work is notifiable.
     
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  15. MrPupsi
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    I didn't want to use the NICEIC online form as it states its a 'domestic certificate' at the top of the cert.
    If it was my practise, I'd want it to say commercial or something to that effect.

    Thanks for all the help though guys, will just fill in a model form now I know its acceptable.
     
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