Nice to see him go round with a torque screwdriver after...

[Dustydazzler]

 

[Taylortwocities]

And testing??

 

[Dustydazzler]

And testing??

What’s that ...

 

[Mike Johnson]

Does not look like a torque screwdriver to me? or was that a tongue in cheek comment in the title?

 

[Dustydazzler]

Does not look like a torque screwdriver to me? or was that a tongue in cheek comment in the title?

bit of both

i recognised it was a regular screwdriver , but at least he used his experience to double check the connections The Ole fashion way (the best way Imo)

so many times I have seen guys do a board using an impact driver and just whack the lid straight on without checking the connections

 

[Mike Johnson]

Ah ha a mark one wrist torque driver.?

 

[buzzlightyear]

There must be a invisible testing done..
There. Has for the tougue screw driver. Lol, I just use me arm torque.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Ah ha a mark one wrist torque driver.?

Yep

what mother gave u

 

[Mike Johnson]

@ Buzz but do you use a VDE Pozidriv bit, I have never seen them available for impact drivers.

 

[Midwest]

Not sure thats the best way to tightened terminals, unless the drill driver is set really low.

Wonder when he'll answer the very first question asked on you tube;

mark glowacki22 hours ago
Great looking board . How long would the testing take on a board that size

Seem to remember this company have done the rounds before?

 

[buzzlightyear]

Buzz but do you use a VDE Pozidriv bit, I have never seen them available for impact drivers

Yes I have got one, you can get one look on allybabba you can get one for them. Lol.

 

[7029 dave]

I would never use a impact driver anywhere near a cu, call me old fashioned but it would be with my hand and good old manual screwdriver.

Cutting away those MICC cables was emotional for me. lol

 

[buzzlightyear]

Great looking board . How long would the testing take on a board that size

Testing tick done two minutes.

 

[Baddegg]

Them gloves would’ve driven me up the wall in the first 12 seconds!....he’s gonna have to take it apart again to test?.....neat job though ?

 

[Mike Johnson]

I also have never used an impact driver on a CU, not the right tool IMO, but have to say it was a neat board.

Can't work in gloves either, that's either hand. ?

 

[7029 dave]

That sleeving to me looked just yellow.?

 

[buzzlightyear]

Them gloves would’ve driven me up the wall in the first 12 seconds!....he’s gonna have to take it apart again to test?.....neat job though

Bloody pandsie using gloves morris,
How come it was not in sub titles. Lol.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Just watched it again with sound Arghhh that radio would have driven me mad.

 

[buzzlightyear]

Just watched it again with sound Arghhh that radio would have driven me mad.

Silance is golden can you remember that one.?

 

[buzzlightyear]

Why cut a old board to sick another one on top I bet the new CU would have fitted on.

 

[Mike Johnson]

That sleeving to me looked just yellow.?

If you go to the end and look at the finished board there is a green stripe on the earth sleve.

Silance is golden can you remember that one.?

But my eye's still see.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Just realised it's Sunday, I wondered why there was so much activity on here.?

 

[stevethesparks]

Shame his main earth didn't come through the same opening as the tails.
I wonder why the pyros were redundant, what a shame.
He's quick but doesn't impress me at all.
Couldn't be bothered to watch all but also didn't see any single conductors doubled over.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Not just that, it sett my ocd into hyperdrive when he just stuck his new wooden panel over the old panel without removing all the old wiring first.
I would have removed every bit of old before mounting my new wooden panel...even if it took an extra 25 minutes to do so

 

[Dustydazzler]

Shame his main earth didn't come through the same opening as the tails.
I wonder why the pyros were redundant, what a shame.
He's quick but doesn't impress me at all.
Couldn't be bothered to watch all but also didn't see any single conductors doubled over.

is he really that quick? , most experienced sparks could make off a consumer unit in sub 2 hours if you do absolutely 0 testing of anything and absolutely no labelling etc
I reckon I could change my board in my house in under 40 minutes (it is only 4 circuits and the tester will stay in the van...

 

[Taylortwocities]

I would never use a impact driver anywhere near a cu, call me old fashioned but it would be with my hand and good old manual screwdriver.

Cutting away those MICC cables was emotional for me. lol

Agree, in fact some CU manufacturers specifically say do not do it. I guess they have had too many returns due to stripped threads!

 

[Dustydazzler]

Agree, in fact some CU manufacturers specifically say do not do it. I guess they have had too many returns due to stripped threads!

I’m often tempted to slacken off all the screws with my 18v impact , but certainly won’t use it to tighten down the screws.
by hand is the only way for me , you can feel the terminal bite down and then I know it’s correct, with an impact gun you would have absolutely no feel...

 

[Strima]

As many others have said using power tools to tighten screws is very bad practice.

 

[pirate]

A "lightweight" electric screwdriver may be fine, or a drill-driver on very low setting, but tightening by hand is preferable IMHO.
As for an impact driver, that is totally the wrong tool. It is designed and operates in a specific way for specific jobs requiring tons well, netwon metres, of torque and is not designed for making electrical terminations in CUs and accessories. However, it seems that a sector of the trades believe it is de riguer to use one for everything...the clue's in the name...
I watched 2 guys boarding out a plasterboard ceiling using them...totally unnecessary and very noisy, apart from being less easy to regulate the depth.

 

[hasel5]

Testing Whats that?
And agree those MI being left in was bad

 

[Mike Johnson]

I recently built a Gazebo base in my garden using an impact driver and was very conscious of the noise and ensured when doing most of the driving my neighbours where not in their garden, they are very noisy and using them internally must drive anyone else in the property potty, mind you now days the younger generation will probably just turn the radio up.

 

[pc1966]

I have seen an electric screwdriver designed for this sort of thing - not the final torque (as that is always variable with impact tools) but just to speed tightening up. But they are expensive (£200+ I seem to remember).

Using a normal power tool is an absolute no-no as it will over-tighten the screws in the blink of an eye. I managed to shear off a M6 steel screw/nut on cable tray once by not being too careful with my small Milwaukee hex impact driver

 

[Mike Johnson]

The normally available impact drivers that come as a set with a drill do not have a variable torque setting they are permanently set at hammer me into oblivion or cam out. ?

 

[UNG]

For those concerned about the gloves, they are worn to avoid leaving any incriminating fingerprint evidence

 

[7029 dave]

I know times money and all that, but all this rush and tear, I used to give myself a day for the mains/ new cu etc.

 

[Dustydazzler]

The irony is these guys are not cheap . Infact I have seen what they charge and it’s top end money.
the fact they lash stuff in on the hurry up doesn’t reflect their final invoice.
the big boss man must be raking it in

 

[pirate]

Impact drivers will drive those concrete bolts into a base, with pre-drilled pilots holes, but a socket wrench will do that too, and very quietly, albeit not so quickly. Screwing in long screws or coachbolts is easy with an impact driver, but most other woodworking tasks can be achieved with a normal drill-driver, and that saves stress on the components/structure. As an essential precaution, always wear eye protection, especially with an impact driver. Even the so-called impact screwdriver bits can shatter under the pressure...a shard from a broken bit embedded itself in my face, 5mm from my right eye...hence the patch.

 

[Moley]

a shard from a broken bit embedded itself in my face, 5mm from my right eye...hence the patch.

But how do you explain the wooden leg?

 

[Dustydazzler]

thinking about getting one of these to speed up my board changes ...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hilti-Co...944207?hash=item595cea3ccf:g:KOUAAOSw5l9fjBEj

 

[pc1966]

thinking about getting one of these to speed up my board changes ...

I have one of these:
https://www.bigredpowertools.co.uk/milwaukee-m18oneid2-0x

It is fantastically useful for drilling with the hex-shaft style of drill bits or the Armeg hole saws for 20mm & 25mm, and driving in big fixing screws or loosening most stuff.

But even on its lowest setting (which I almost always use) it can break small-medium sized stuff. It has a 'variable' speed trigger but it is hard to keep it from just hammering things down...

I hardly ever use the normal battery drill any more, though the 3-jaw chuck is more precise for drilling than the hex shaft drill bits and it has better speed control. So definitely get one, but just not for terminals m'kay?

 

[pc1966]

Just to add: the Milwaukee power tools have clips for your belt but I just unscrew them as they get in the way for getting in to difficult places. Also if you do try hanging it off your belt then you just end up mooning folk!

 

[Mike Johnson]

I like the fact it has four different hammer settings, my DeWalt just has the hammer into oblivion setting.

 

[Pete999]

Not once did he check that the cores were caught by the cage or screw, and bending the single core over with a pair of side cutters??

 

[Timbo]

Milwaukee Surge Impact driver is a lot quieter than the standard unit. I hardly use the normal one now.

https://uk.milwaukeetool.eu/en-gb/m18-fuel-surge-8243;-hex-hydraulic-impact-driver/m18-fqid/

 

[Mike Johnson]

Noooooo I have enough tools, but it does sound (or not) good, a surge impact driver, no I don't want one, can you get them cheaper, will try FFX they always seem to be the cheapest for tools, no stop it, I need a drink.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Yes Pete , he does appear to nip the cores together with his side cutters...
I winced more than once when he did that

 

[nicebutdim]

Just to add: the Milwaukee power tools have clips for your belt but I just unscrew them as they get in the way for getting in to difficult places. Also if you do try hanging it off your belt then you just end up mooning folk!

Hate those belt clips on Makita tools, but wish they were still in place every time I'm up a ladder.

 

[Pete999]

Yes Pete , he does appear to nip the cores together with his side cutters...
I winced more than once when he did that

Looks nice but is it safe?

 

[Pete999]

Yes Pete , he does appear to nip the cores together with his side cutters...
I winced more than once when he did that

Ppersonally Mate I don't like stuffin two 1.5mm2 into a terminal without doubling them over properly, with the correct tools, think Matey's priority is make it look nice and quick, get paid and Foxtrot Oscar, not clever at all.

 

[pc1966]

Noooooo I have enough tools, but it does sound (or not) good, a surge impact driver, no I don't want one, can you get them cheaper, will try FFX they always seem to be the cheapest for tools, no stop it, I need a drink.

Damn, you just made me look on FFX and it is £159, around £110 off the normal price (I already have two batteries and a charger so can get the "naked" one).

As Oscar said: the only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it...