NICEIC / ELECSA / NAPIT - how did you get on with the assessment?

[mikex79]

Hi everybody
I would like to start a new thread : how did you get on with your NICEIC Dommestic Installer as well as Approved Contractor, ELECSA or NAPIT onsite assesment,
I would like you to share your experience with other users
- which scheme are you under?
- what jobs did you choose for the assessment and why?
- how was the assessment / assessor?
- how long have you been with NICEIC / ELECSA / NAPIT and if anything has changed over the years
- why NICEIC / ELECSA / NAPIT ?
- is there anything else to register with that someone could recommend?

 

[dufjax]

Got my annual NIC assessment next Thursday...


Will let you know how I get on


Cheers
Jim

 

[miner69er]

hi everyone
i'm registered with elecsa, the assessor for the my area of the midlands was ray, very nice bloke friendly and did not treat it like it was a nightmare that only the few would ever get a pass from him.
did a consumer unit change at my parents house for first assessment and i made a small error on the paperwork (missed one of the boxes to be filled in!) assessor pointed this out and i filled it in there and then, no problems.
i've had cause to ring the technical helpline twice in the 8 months of being registered with them and both times the person on the other end has been patient & helpfull giving me exactly the answer i was looking for. hope others get as good from there part p scheme.

 

[mikex79]

hi everyone
i'm registered with elecsa, the assessor for the my area of the midlands was ray, very nice bloke friendly and did not treat it like it was a nightmare that only the few would ever get a pass from him.
did a consumer unit change at my parents house for first assessment and i made a small error on the paperwork (missed one of the boxes to be filled in!) assessor pointed this out and i filled it in there and then, no problems.
i've had cause to ring the technical helpline twice in the 8 months of being registered with them and both times the person on the other end has been patient & helpfull giving me exactly the answer i was looking for. hope others get as good from there part p scheme.

what was your other job for the assessment?

 

[TPES]

Miner69er where abouts are you? I had ray too.. very helpfull.

I used a mains change on a farmhouse (TT)
And an outdoor socket fed from RFC

Helpline is very good, If they cant answer there and then they always rang me back within 15 minutes.

They never dictate to you or talk down to you, no matter how silly your question may be to others, Elecsa always help and give you a detailed answer.

Cant fault them, From what ive heard they do more for the contractor than any other scheme.. At least i feel i'm getting better value for my yearly premium.

 

[mikex79]

I used a mains change on a farmhouse (TT)
And an outdoor socket fed from RFC

1. mains from the transformer??
2. what's RFC?
thanks

 

[Guest123]

1. mains from the transformer??
2. what's RFC?
thanks

RFC = Ring Final Circuit.

Not sure what you mean by 1, he is saying he changed a consumer unit on a farmhouse and it was a TT earthing system.

HTH.

 

[miner69er]

i only needed to do the one job as this was deemed enough for the part 'p' assessment. don't know if it changes for commercial as i only do domestic (after 17 years as an engineer i'm quite happy poking around in lofts/walls they are much cleaner than 99% of factory's)
in responce to magic-sid, i'm in the leicestershire area, i won't say where exactly as we might be competing against each other

 

[TPES]

RFC = Ring Final Circuit.

Not sure what you mean by 1, he is saying he changed a consumer unit on a farmhouse and it was a TT earthing system.

HTH.

Cheers Lenny.

i'm in the leicestershire area, i won't say where exactly as we might be competing against each other

Ha ha ha..

IT WAS YOU!!!

You undercut me on that 4 bed rewire!! How can you be so cheap...

Just kidding... Although i'll bet you are just round the corner..

 

[empress]

when i had my Elecsa site visit guy was fine chatted about my background which for me was mostly commercial and which big firms i'd worked for ,after checking all paper work, quals , insurance etc was in order he launched into the important bit .
thought i got a decent grilling at the time and felt i'd had me moneys worth.
used an upgrade on small town house, new CU ,loads of new circuts etc for first job.

After doin a demo of just about every test & validating the results the guy showed me the RCD ramp test on my megger 1552 which i had never used and is a handy feature .
plenty of questions on everything really so it pays to do a bit of home work if yer a bit rusty
Asked about going to the second job i had lined up but he'd seen enough apparently.
seem to recall the whole thing took around 4-5 hours.
like a lot of people have said, not as bad as you think its gonna be.
very important bit don't forget the cuppa ,he'll be glad of one and it gives you a break to recharge yer brain cells.
ATB with ya site visit.
elfyn

 

[tickover]

Had my first assesment with Elecsa today, Passed with A grade! run a submain to an outbuilding, was bricking it but the Assessor was very friendly and helpful and loved his tea and coffee.. never tried to catch me out or anything like you expect to happen (natural reaction...), So far i am very pleased with my choice and can see ill be staying with them and would recommend.

I got asked the usual questions i guess
Name and discribe the three earthing arangements
what protection is required for a cable buried in the wall
Holes in Joists (areas aloud and where not)
Maz Zs of a 32a Circuit
Max Zs of a 6a Circuit
and a few others that i cant remember right now.

in the inspection the assessor looked around my install and when it came to the testing i was asked to do a direct Zs and a Full RCD test (all 6 tests)

Would also like to thank everyone on this forum for their posts, with useful infomation, pointers and advise, they helped me realise there really isnt anything to worry about as long as you know your Regs, can do the job and confident with the meter... Oh and especialy the advive about getting the kettle on!

Cheers Guys!
Tickover

 

[mikex79]

hi
we haven't heard too much from the ones registered with NAPIT
anyone?

 

[arjay]

Had my first Elecsa assessment Thursday passed with an A ,only wanted one job CU change in a bungalow . He was a really easy going man put me right at ease guided me thru had to do Ze test and RCD test he went thru all the necessary paperwork and even dropped off a few good tips for me, looking forward to next year now!

 

[mikex79]

hi what type of paperwork? your companie's stuff? i m just starting being on my own so i dont have too much paperwork at the moment, was it important for the assessor?

 

[miner69er]

hi mikex79
the paperwork needed for the assessment is all written down in the pack elecsa send when you apply to join. this will include needing the following, £2,000,000 public liability cover (they need to see the cover note), electricity at work regs book, risk assesment forms etc. but don't worry all the forms required are sent with the pack as examples so all you have to do is insert your name at the top.
the list they send you is comprehensive and all the items need to be there for the assessment just tick them all off the list as you sort it out one by one to make sure they are all in place.

 

[jase]

Had my first Elecsa assessment Thursday passed with an A ,only wanted one job CU change in a bungalow . He was a really easy going man put me right at ease guided me thru had to do Ze test and RCD test he went thru all the necessary paperwork and even dropped off a few good tips for me, looking forward to next year now!

Just wondering, how long a time between applying/paying your fee, and the guy actually coming to asses?? i want to put mine in but am not quite ready yet

 

[Amp David]

Miner69er where abouts are you? I had ray too.. very helpfull.

I used a mains change on a farmhouse (TT)
And an outdoor socket fed from RFC

Helpline is very good, If they cant answer there and then they always rang me back within 15 minutes.

They never dictate to you or talk down to you, no matter how silly your question may be to others, Elecsa always help and give you a detailed answer.

Cant fault them, From what ive heard they do more for the contractor than any other scheme.. At least i feel i'm getting better value for my yearly premium.

Was it Ray Chivers?

 

[Amp David]

Just wondering, how long a time between applying/paying your fee, and the guy actually coming to asses?? i want to put mine in but am not quite ready yet

I sent off my payment and application mid April and got the assessment date for 21st June.

 

[TPES]

@ Amp David,

Yes mate, that's my assessor. He's sound!

 

[Amp David]

Yeah, thought he was a good bloke myself

 

[Sid]

Any feedback from NAPIT assessments????

 

[TPES]

Yeah, thought he was a good bloke myself

Where are you located mate?

 

[raj200048]

my on site assesment next month with napit. Im little bit worried about what he will ask in assesment? any one can help me about it?

 

[Amp David]

Where are you located mate?

I'm in Glossop, Derbyshire

 

[raj200048]

from preston lancashire

 

[BIGBRYERS]

Got my assessment a week monday duno what to expect lol. Iv got mr alan jones from elesca any1 had him on there assessments if you can you give me a heads up of what he looks at

 

[liam b]

Got my assessment a week monday duno what to expect lol. Iv got mr alan jones from elesca any1 had him on there assessments if you can you give me a heads up of what he looks at

i had my elecsa assessment a week ago, aslong as you have your books and liability insurance and know the basics from the regs, cable capacity table etc, i was asked a few questions on new builds, socket heights, energy efficient bulbs etc, then make sure your board has all the stickers it needs.
tests i done were ze, fault currents and end to end on a ring. i was asked about all the rest.

 

[robskiing]

Ive got my assessment this afternoon done a rewire about two months ago on a refurb empty house thought this would be the best job for the assessor to look at got the keys yesterday opened up went to cupboard under the stairs where the consumer unit is positioned and in my absence the plumber has been there only brought his gas main within 5mm of the unit so what do you say to the assessor. ive asked the owner to get it repositioned telling him it should be at least 150mm away just hope he does it cant believe my luck

 

[GStueyXR]

Ive got my assessment this afternoon done a rewire about two months ago on a refurb empty house thought this would be the best job for the assessor to look at got the keys yesterday opened up went to cupboard under the stairs where the consumer unit is positioned and in my absence the plumber has been there only brought his gas main within 5mm of the unit so what do you say to the assessor. ive asked the owner to get it repositioned telling him it should be at least 150mm away just hope he does it cant believe my luck

Your Job complied, dont worry about it.

 

[Amp David]

Ive got my assessment this afternoon done a rewire about two months ago on a refurb empty house thought this would be the best job for the assessor to look at got the keys yesterday opened up went to cupboard under the stairs where the consumer unit is positioned and in my absence the plumber has been there only brought his gas main within 5mm of the unit so what do you say to the assessor. ive asked the owner to get it repositioned telling him it should be at least 150mm away just hope he does it cant believe my luck

Even if it gets seen as a non compliance then when its moved, all you'll need to do is take photo evidence and send it to you scheme provider.

Like GSXR says, it complied when you did the work.

You've got your certs and surley the plumber will have had to leave his gas safe cert at the property, so this will act as evidence that your work was done first

 

[robskiing]

The plumber came out this morning and moved his pipe just finished my assessment went with a breeze spoke at home non electrical he mixed in some questions about my electrical background then onto my job which was a rewire he unscrewed a pendant checked that while i got my tester ready for a Ze test told him the result then asked me what was the maximum Ze for a tncs .That was all the testing i had to do cant believe all the worry and prep i had to do turned out to be a pleasant experience looking forward to next year.

 

[DiscoDave]

Had my Napit assesment this morning, not really had any chance to worry about it, as it was arranged friday morning, and I started a good sized job on monday i spent all weekend thinking about that.

The assessment was quite pleasant, ran through all the things everyone has said about, I answered a few questions mainly about inspection and testing, why do we do this, show me that in the regs. I asked him a few questions that i had.

For my job we walked to the end of my garden to my garage (only job i've done recently that's with in 30 miles of home) where I demonstrated testing of Zs and he showed me the RCD auto test feature on my tester

After that he said well done and off he went!

 

[BIGBRYERS]

Iv got my assessment 2morrow and am shutting myself iv done a consumer unit change and added a new circit supplying outdoor socket. Will let u now how it went

 

[jayherb]

Niceic Disq passed recently,local authority want a cable track as ive already plastered the place and they cant see where the cables go.Anyone heard of this one,got to get private company to carry out this one then theyve got to submit it to the building control along with my test readings .The private comp also got to do periodic,red tape i guess anyone in the same boat?

 

[BIGBRYERS]

could any one help me mind gone Blank what rcd time do i record is it
1X 0
1X 180
5X 0
5X 180

 

[Sintra]

The highest between 5 x 0 & 5 x 180

 

[robskiing]

Dont worry if you are not sure you can always reference the on site guide ,they are not there to catch you out he doesnt expect you to know everything of heart

 

[BIGBRYERS]

just to let every 1 now i passed all went ok

 

[Guest123]

Well done.

 

[robskiing]

Excellent bet you realise now all that worrying for nothing dont have make life a little easier regarding building control

 

[Shock Doctor]

Hi, just had my elecsa assesment and felt it went well. After checking my paperwork was all in order got a bit of a grilling on the regs. The practical questions ( socket heights, depth of chases, spacing of notches in joists etc.) no problem. Got in a bit of a flap on the more technical side, alot of questions on TT systems!?! that i had to refer to my regs book for as I have very little eperience and a few others that when the same question phrased differently made more sense.

Then on to the job (CU change over) no problems, performed ring circuit continuity test, Zs and Ze tests and RCD test. Think I need to work on my explanations a bit as I work alone mostly I know what im on about and that I work by the regs so dont worry but think my laymans terms may have confused the issue slighty.

I was extremely nervous but found the assesment to be fair and the assesor polite and helpful. He left saying he felt I was fine and that he will see me next year so I take it that Ive passed. I suppose I have to wait for his report to be processed and then Elecsa will let me know either way. If any one knows what happens next let me know!

All in all not as bad as I had feared but wish I had done a bit more revision.

 

[m4tty]

Shock doctor : who was your assessor as I done exactly the same tests as you few weeks ago. Was it George Ada or something like that ? And if he didn't give you a yellow sheet you've passed and should get welcome pack through in about a week with van stickers keyrings etc.

 

[robskiing]

My assessment went looking back now fairly straight forward talked about a couple of local sparkies checked all my paperwork looked through previous test certificates mixed in one or two general questions which i thought was quite easy then onto a rewire done one test Ze at the board he checked a pendant and took off one light switch job done must of caught my assessor on a good day he let me know there and then that i had passed.i

 

[harry@forthspor]

I was checking out Ableskills as they have a set up for Part P, and getting prepared for assessments for NICEIC / ELECSA / NAPIT and 2382/2392 , but want just under 2k cover all the courses over 20 days..how's that with so many options around, has anyone used ableskills.cheerzz

 

[Shock Doctor]

Shock doctor : who was your assessor as I done exactly the same tests as you few weeks ago. Was it George Ada or something like that ? And if he didn't give you a yellow sheet you've passed and should get welcome pack through in about a week with van stickers keyrings etc.

M4tty sounds like the same guy, George Eka was his name. As he didnt give me a yellow sheet I'll take that as a pass then! thanks for lettin me know.

 

[m4tty]

No worries mate

 

[swansea spark]

can you advise me.
I am soon to undergo an assesment by Napit and because of an illness in the family i haven't done much work installing over the last 8 months. I read where they check your diary and expect to see other things like material invoices relating to the business. Is this correct.

thanks

 

[Shock Doctor]

I cant speak for everyone but on my assesment they didnt ask for anything like that. They do want to see that you have some form of system to manage your paperwork and risk assesment/health and safety policy etc but not material receipts. Im sure some of the others will be along in a minute to let you know if they were asked anything like that.

 

[robsparky1975]

Very topical thread this for me as im gonna enrol with one very soon,thanks

 

[harrod58]

Interesting thread