Plasterboard Back boxes 1st fix or 2nd fix

[Rpa07]

Appleby all the way, the worst I ever used was knights something or other I like Appleby for the smooth slide I hate the ratcheting ones. And when I've only got room for a side fix and no metal box I shave off the grip part and screw in through the side of the lug. Never found any that come close.

I think you mean KNIGHTSBRIDGE. I thought that you would name Appleby.

 

[mattg4321]

True, but if you make sure the metal box is slightly forward from the joists, they can push the board against the back box, cut it away carefully and hey presto, you and the plasterer are happy!

I agree but the problem is I'm still relying on other so called trades.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Anyone used these?........looks carp to me.

Studbox | No need to use your noggin! - http://www.studbox.co.uk/

 

[Midwest]

They seem an expensive waste of plastic to me. Don't see anything wrong with dry lining boxes myself. With money tight, can't see how you can use anything else, house bashing. Just my opinion.

 

[Wilko]

Anyone used these?........looks carp to me.

Studbox | No need to use your noggin! - http://www.studbox.co.uk/

Not yet, but a catchy name ...

 

[J.C.E]

Anyone used these?........looks carp to me.

Studbox | No need to use your noggin! - http://www.studbox.co.uk/

was going to link these too!- not used them as yet though

ideal world- if the builder fits noggins- I like to use metal boxes - so at-least you have some kind of fixed point to 1st fix to (no floating coils of cable that can easily be forgot and boarded over

 

[Midwest]

Wots that little yellow thing in the back of that stud muffin er box.

 

[rsgaz]

Wots that little yellow thing in the back of that stud muffin er box.

It's a spirit level.

http://www.studbox.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/image-6.jpg

Gaz

 

[mattg4321]

Those stud boxes look terrible.

Bet they are expensive too. What happens when one of the lugs break? Will be a pig to sort out. Also I can guarantee that tackers will get confused and cut holes for all 3 boxes quite often.

 

[rsgaz]

What happens when one of the lugs break?

from their FAQ page...

What happens if one of the brass threads gets damage? Drill out the damaged insert with a 5mm drill and we can supply a M3.5 brass insert that self taps from the front.

 

[J.C.E]

can you imagine if you over tighten and the lug snaps off!!!

 

[Octopus]

was going to link these too!- not used them as yet though

ideal world- if the builder fits noggins- I like to use metal boxes - so at-least you have some kind of fixed point to 1st fix to (no floating coils of cable that can easily be forgot and boarded over

Why can't you fit noggins?

I've done exactly that on my current (massive) extension I'm working on. A few minutes work to fit a noggin, a laser level to set them on the same level and they won't budge....

 

[Leader]

1st fix and pack it with screwed up paper so the plastered doesn't fill it ( like mine does).

I've used the studboxes, useful in a couple of situations but generally I'm not keen on them.

 

[Midwest]

It's a spirit level.

http://www.studbox.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/image-6.jpg

Gaz

You've been had Gaz

 

[Midwest]

To stop a metal back box being filled up with plaster, you can use these; The Electrical 1st Fix Back Box Protector - http://blank-it.co.uk/

I use these, to do the same and have a nice square decorative edge; Yoozybox - http://www.yoozybox.co.uk/

They're very good when plaster finish is being patched up etc. Yoozybox also do a cover. Had a few plasterers rip them off, but generally, they're happy to have an edge to plaster to.

 

[mattg4321]

Rather have the money in my pocket to be honest. Let the plasterer worry about the plastering!

 

[Midwest]

Rather have the money in my pocket to be honest. Let the plasterer worry about the plastering!

You obviously have considerate plasterers

 

[Des 56]

To stop a metal back box being filled up with plaster, you can use these; The Electrical 1st Fix Back Box Protector - http://blank-it.co.uk/

Possibly a more efficient method is to issue the plasterer with one of these beforehand