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  1. Gavin John Hyde
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    Just been in Homebase to choose a light fitting with a customer and i see this shining example of electrical work.
    Looking at the cable run they have tapped into a swa from the old car park lights and then run it up a pole to service the car park enforcement cameras to clock entry and exit times.
    The cowboys didnt even make an attempt to use some magical insulation tape to cover it.
    In event the little hole fills with rain and some kid comes along then could be dangerous.
    I put my tester on it to see if live and 240v going down it.
    Told the manager in the store and his response is classic... "Its okay as the electrician is registered with niceic and hes tested it and everything. We are only allowed to use approved electricians due to health and safety!!"
    I bit my lip and held back on this one but im going to email their head office as this is ridiculous.
     
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  2. Gavin John Hyde
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    Here is the efforts by the cowboy

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  3. snowhead
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    snowhead Trusted Advisor

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    Don't suppose there was anywhere nearby they could have bought a Weatherproof box :rolleyes::D

    Email to Homebase Head office and see if the Aussies that now own it are bothered.?
     
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    Hopefully it’s down to the S***b*g private CCTV parking contractors who can be taken for a few million when someone is hurt. Also makes a mockery of the scam system.
     
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    I think I might have lead the manager by the hand, showed them the exposed wires, taken his name and said something like, ‘ so you are quite happy to leave live exposed electrical parts to the danger of customers and staff?’
     
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  6. littlespark
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    It'll be well protected in the winter when the hole fills with water and ices over.
     
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  7. FatAlan
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    Is that CPC going direct to earth? :rolleyes:
     
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  8. telectrix
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    slapa shovel full of tarmac over it, be arrite.
     
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    TT system. Without the second T. Or the first! o_O
     
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  10. David M
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    David M I'm often blinded by simplicity Electrician's Arms

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    Surely someone at the store would be responsible for signing off any work completed by a contractor? Though I guess it will be a case of "I'm sure its fine they are registered electricians" Store manager who can't be bothered to come out of his/her cosy office to have a quick look over work completed.
    Anybody with half a brain, whether they have any knowledge or not of electrics, would surely question such a sh** job done!
    "tradesmen" who produce workmanship like this should be prosecuted!!
     
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  11. Pete999
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    Lead him by the scruff of his coat sounds more reasonable
     
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  12. littlespark
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    The same Homebase that sell cable and accessories to the general public, encouraging the bodged DIY examples seen elsewhere on the forum. Hardware store light fittings are the worst in design.... IKEA, take note. Awful, awful products. Normally 2 screws that are too short to reach any wooden joist above the ceiling, and 2 rawlplugs that don't quite fit the screws. No provision in their connections for a looped live, or an earth wire for that matter.
    I'm not surprised seeing that photo. The materials used look like they were taken from the shop floor.
     
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  13. Midwest
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    Midwest Electrician's Arms

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    I would send your picture and the response received to your local news paper or online service. Or they might end up reporting on something like this;

    Large group of people hit with electric shocks while trying to fix fallen pole - http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/horrifying-moment-men-hit-electric-8661080

    Warning contains disturbing images :eek:
     
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  14. DPG
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    It definitely needs taking further - you're going to feel pretty bad if something happens in the future.

    Send an email with the photo attached to the store manager and to their head office expressing your concerns. Tell them you want a reply to the email or you will be reporting it to the relevant authorities.

    To be honest, the head office should thank you for this - their health and safety dept would be very interested.
     
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  15. littlespark
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    Add to the email you got a mild shock from it when you bent down to tie your shoelace.... Compensation claim ahoy.
     
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  16. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Electrician's Arms

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    Homebase are entirely responsible for the electrical installation at that site and it is clearly a breach of the E&WR 1989. You have consulted the Manager who was not too concerned so why not consult the HSE.
     
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  17. Pete999
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    Then then watch the booger squirm and writhe, best interview near a WC though.
     
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  18. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Electrician's Arms

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    They are in breach of at least four Regulations there all of which are Absolute Regulations the fines for which can be hefty to say the least.
     
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    And some time at Her Maj's Pleasure if it's bad enough. or the Judge is missing his free lunch at the house of lords.
     
  20. Midwest
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    As its a car park, public or private provided by a retailer, I don't think it would be in the HSE area or remit. More likely the local authority's?

    There's a squished roadside cabinet near me, been like it for weeks. I'm afraid these days its not until someone gets hurt, that any of the authorities take action. Unless the media start asking them awkward questions.
     
  21. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Electrician's Arms

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    If the power is derived from Homebase it is their responsibility.
     
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    A call to the local rag might elicit a different reaction.
     
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  23. Midwest
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    HSE refer responsibilities for shops to local authorities, although they have responsibilities for electrical systems, but I suspect that's supplies. Whatever, as I said before the power of the press might prove more fruitful.

    Edit whatever, I would want something done pdq!
     
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    Stick It on their facebook, allways the best way to get issues like that sorted
     
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  25. westward10
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    That work is in breach of the E&WR 1989, they are breaking the law.
     
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  26. Gavin John Hyde
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    I have emailed the head office with image attached basically telling them its dangerous and in breach of numerous rules and regs... suggesting they get it fixed asap and not by the same so called electrician who did the poor work.
    I told them that if they do not fix it then if somebody gets hurt or worse dies they could be fined huge sums possibly even criminal charges.
    I have said that if its not fixed asap then when i am next in homebase and i see it unrepaired then i will send the same images to the local and national press.

    Time will tell if they can be bothered to reply or fix it.
     
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  27. Midwest
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    Not arguing that, just who is responsible for policing it, and the expectations of a timely response. OP has already been told to mind his own business. He can choose to forget about it or try another tack.

    If someone got hurt, HSE would be all over it. Until that happened, I expect they would bat any complaint back to the landlords or local authority.

    My squished roadside cabinet is in breach, but it's been so for some weeks.
     
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  28. FatAlan
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    I suspect that Homebase contracted the CCTV company to police their car park and it’s the CCTVcompany who have sub contracted installation to to a bunch of cowboys.
     
  29. telectrix
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    or more likely that the CCTV monkey engineer has done it hisself.
     
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  30. marc8
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    marc8 Electrician's Arms

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    from picture looks like it is on the ground or have I missed something?

    if it is on the ground I would take a lighter to my trainers burn it up a bit lay on the ground next to it & say I have had an electric shock & watch the s...t hit the fan, bet they would act then!
     
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  31. Gavin John Hyde
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    yes its on the ground, it is covered by about half an inch at most of cheap tarmac stuff you buy in a bucket in b and q the picture shows it completely exposed and looks like it was never covered, they must have chased out a little groove for the white flex and joined it on to the old black cable to the right...
     
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  32. Rpa07
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    The more you look at it the sadder it gets, it’s awful.
    Oh and Gavin, clean your camera lens, that photos as bad as @Vortigern@Vortigern s attempts!
     
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  33. LankyWill
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    I'd Pour water on it and laugh when everything cuts out, get the monkeys back to fix their abortion.
     
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  34. Gavin John Hyde
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    I have finally removed the plastic film off the camera on back of my phone, only had it 18 months!! and surprised it stayed stuck on all this time. must be good LG engineering. future pictures will be better and clearer;)
     
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  36. Matthewd29
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    Reckon it's taped round a spike at the other end? Lol probably a plastic spike with this tube
     
  37. littlespark
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    Question: did OP test this with prong testers or a no-contact stick tester? A stick tester may have lit up at 12v .
    If you used a ‘proper’ tester, you touched it last... they’ll swing the blame somehow.
     
  38. Gavin John Hyde
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    On my way into town for rugby i cut through said carpark at homebase and guess my moaning and email to hq had an effect. They have fenced it off! Not fixed it but decided to put a nasty plastic fence around it.
    Its a start i guess..

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    A start I guess, still won't stop inquisitive little finger poking around will it
     
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    I know on here we can nit pick at times and moan about over the top H & S rules but after seeing the latest wider shot photo that has lethal consequences. I really do hope that they isolated it.
     
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  41. Rpa07
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    Look at all the wonderful colours in that photo @Gavin John Hyde@Gavin John Hyde! Oranges, greens and a bit of tarmacadam grey.
     
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  42. Vortigern
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    I would have laid on the ground with some shaving foam around my mouth by the cable with a bunch of keys I dropped and tried to pick up. See how long it took someone to notice.:smilingimp:
     
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    bloody dramea queen! :D
     
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    Rpa07 2000 posts - only 46379 behind Telectrix! Electrician's Arms

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    Use squirty cream, tastes better if you get hungry after the 100th person walks over your drama queen, twitching, bad acting, attention seeking, compensation chasing body! Or is that being a bit hard on you!
     
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