Sleeving, grommets and other lazy faults

[vitoboy]

nogrommits.
nosleeving.
nosparks!


nospacebar!
vito

 

[telectrix]

isn't a space bar where aliens go to get pi**ed?

 

[GLENNSPARK]

'spose that could replace my beer money jar, save all the copper offcuts.

I bet you still have those great big jars.....full of pennies 1 each side of the fake stone fireplace complete wuth "cannon gas mizer".....all the rage in the 70s:yesnod:.....lol.........

 

[topquark]

5p's these days, hate the damn things. No parking meter takes 'em, don't know why we have them.

 

[telectrix]

because if you collect enough 5p's you can then purchase an " out of order" bag to put over the parking meter.

 

[topquark]

or over me head! Great idea, I need a beer!

 

[Grommit]

I've read this thread with interest.

RYB, Brown Black Grey, L1 L2 L3. Simple.

Not so simple it seems for entrants into the industry for those who have no ingrained experience of RYB.

As the poster name suggests (although spelt differently), use of grommets has been with me since my first days in the industry (1972). Sometimes it's been a bush and locknut/ring where appropriate.

Recently on a job, the now sent on his way Part P/NAFFOFF registered "fully qualified electrician" had sleeved the black of his 6243Y cables with blue. Naughty boy, as when I went in to finish off connecting up 2ways & smoke alarms, I had to change the existing to the "The Way" of sleeving things.

In the days before sleeving, I wrapped coloured tape around conductors to identify them. If its quicker to wrap tape around existing unidentified conductors than disconnect, then I do. Still identified, agreed ?

 

[Thomas123]

if using a 3 core cable do you only have to sleeve the grey as blue? Black doesnt need to be sleeved brown as its a line conductor colour anyway? or is this wrong.

 

[topquark]

if using a 3 core cable do you only have to sleeve the grey as blue? Black doesnt need to be sleeved brown as its a line conductor colour anyway? or is this wrong.

What line conductor do you think black is?

 

[Deleted member 26818]

With single phase, the only colour allowed for a line conductor is brown.

 

[Thomas123]

hmm i guess you have a point.

 

[GLENNSPARK]

or over me head! Great idea, I need a beer!

Saved up enough then...i can hear them jars rattlin from here......pricy now ale innit..lol..........

 

[topquark]

hmm i guess you have a point.

Nope, I have a pint

 

[Thomas123]

Nope, I have a pint

mmmmm beer

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Nope, I have a pint

fullers "london pride" Mmm:sifone:

 

[topquark]

fullers "london pride" Mmm:sifone:

Would be nice, or HSB (as they've taken over that from Gales). I've got a dodgy cold lager, just don't let Tel know!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

Went to the local the other nite.. went for the carling and it was as flat as a fart...that`l teach me i thought..funny though as its usually allrite

 

[vernam616]

Carling = poor mans lager, the choice of the chav

 

[GLENNSPARK]

1664 is the way forward, carlings for gaylords :26:

Its the mornin after that counts though believe me non of my cables n conduits are straight after i`v been on the pop..........

 

[Marvo]

...use of grommets has been with me since my first days in the industry (1972). Sometimes it's been a bush and locknut/ring where appropriate.

Grommets are a pet hate of mine. Too often they don't stay in place and too often they're too lazy to disconnect the wiring so they cut the grommet to allow it to be fitted as an after-thought. I use glands or bush and locknut every time.

Where I am sleeving of earths isn't a requirement but I sometimes do sleeve if the panel layout benefits from it. I always identify wiring using printed labels rather than coloured sleeves