Smoke alarm

[aaelectric]

Have 3 smoke alarms in a house which are supposed to be interlinked but are not. The red light flashes every minute or so. Would this be because they are not interlinked. Green light is constant and are all new alarms?

 

[telectrix]

think you'll find that the red flashing every minute is either normal or a sign of weak battery, depending on the make and model. usually, however a weak battery will give an audible warning. suggest googling for makers instructions.

 

[electromonkey]

Try the test button. If the all go off simultaneously, then you know they are interlinked.

 

[a1guvner]

You can get raadio link bases to give you the interlink facility, an important function in my book that shouldnt be overlooked

 

[ezzzekiel]

could be radio with the flashing led (aico do this) press the link button to pair

 

[Octopus]

If they are FireX smoke alarms, a red blink indicates that they are OK.

What make and model are they?

 

[aaelectric]

They are aico and are not interlinked as they are using two core t&e

 

[PC Electrics]

Where are you seeing t&e?
At the board? That'd be normal.
At all bases? Someone used the cpc as interlink?

Get the leccy back and get some radio bases installed if no link

 

[th3pony]

do you have to use micc or fp200 to install smoke alarms in a house ?

 

[rich.250]

do you have to use micc or fp200 to install smoke alarms in a house ?

Depends on the category of alarm required. Generally not in a house.

 

[rich.250]

They are aico and are not interlinked as they are using two core t&e

If they are Aico's check for radio link bases if there's t&e in everyone. If there is not any, shouldn't be hard to fit.
I've got a feeling the red light is battery low, but not flat as it will beep then. They also flash red to say they have been activated but silenced.
Best check the manufacturers instructions.

 

[th3pony]

standard mains connected smoke alarms, so can i use 1.5mm t&e

 

[rich.250]

What size is the property?

 

[th3pony]

3 bed semi quite small

 

[rich.250]

From what you've said I would probably say 1mm or 1.5mm t&e interlinked with 3c&e. Dependant on the requirements of the installation method.

 

[daiplayer]

i all

Any advice / pdf / handbooks/ leaflets with guidance on minimum siting and selection of alarms going ?

Is there any requirements as to what alarms to use ? ( heat alarm for kitchen ) but as for ionisation/optical ?

thanks

 

[rich.250]

Aico. Do iPhone app and hand book FOC. Google them

 

[GLENNSPARK]

They are aico and are not interlinked as they are using two core t&e

and have you verefied this.....check to see that the CPC hasn`t been used to link em.....s scenario leigh n I have come across....quite a few times..lol....

 

[Amp David]

A little off from the OP but looked at 3 rented houses yesterday in which the landlord want EICRs done on them. He has also asked about putting in mains smoke alarms, so I will be quoting him for these.

My question is regards interlinking. There is no way at the minute to go installing cabling to interlink them and I reckon the price of RF bases will kill him.

So do you reckon its a good idea to install the alarms for him, but not interlink them, then when he feels hes willing to let me or someone back to get the interlinking sorted he can do.

My thought is the mains smoke that are not interlinked are better than none or the old knackered battery ones he has now with the batteries removed.

 

[Octopus]

A little off from the OP but looked at 3 rented houses yesterday in which the landlord want EICRs done on them. He has also asked about putting in mains smoke alarms, so I will be quoting him for these.

My question is regards interlinking. There is no way at the minute to go installing cabling to interlink them and I reckon the price of RF bases will kill him.

So do you reckon its a good idea to install the alarms for him, but not interlink them, then when he feels hes willing to let me or someone back to get the interlinking sorted he can do.

My thought is the mains smoke that are not interlinked are better than none or the old knackered battery ones he has now with the batteries removed.

For me its installed properly, i.e. interlinked by RF or cable or not at all.

Doing an install tomorrow of 2 x Aico RF systems, interestingly the requirement for fitting them in the house, to the hall and landing has come from building control - and building control haven't asked for one in the massive kitchen/family room

 

[Amp David]

When there is a kitchen which is open plan into the living room, what would you fit.

Heat in kitchen area and an optical smoke in the living room area. Not talking big areas, maybe 7x4 meters.

 

[Engineer54]

When there is a kitchen which is open plan into the living room, what would you fit.

Heat in kitchen area and an optical smoke in the living room area. Not talking big areas, maybe 7x4 meters.

I'm afraid there is a good chance that a smokie will still be sensing smoke in a combined open plan kitchen/lounge area of 7X4 metre. ...Your stuck with rate of rise heat detectors. We have lots of similar problems with these sorts of areas...

 

[Amp David]

Cheers Eng,

Don't suppose you know if the Aico heat detectors are 'fixed' or 'rate of rise'.

Only other option is to put an optical smoke in the entrance/hallway area.

 

[Guest123]

i all

Any advice / pdf / handbooks/ leaflets with guidance on minimum siting and selection of alarms going ?

Is there any requirements as to what alarms to use ? ( heat alarm for kitchen ) but as for ionisation/optical ?

thanks

PublicationsAico - Fire & CO Detection & Fire Protection Specialist

 

[rick.oshea]

Cheers Eng,

Don't suppose you know if the Aico heat detectors are 'fixed' or 'rate of rise'.

Only other option is to put an optical smoke in the entrance/hallway area.

This is a bit of an old post which I stumbled across while 'googling'......... and you have probably sussed this one out but Aico do a multisensor product Ei2110 which is optical and has a built in heat detector and has been designed for such scenarios as open plan kitchen / lounges - fit one of these in the lounge part and as long as its within 7.5m of all the walls, job done.

Aico run a free course and I have to say it was a couple of hours well spent - goes through required standards (BS, building control, LD catagories etc), products and operation, positioning, testing and the dreded paperwork - plus you get placed on their website as a trained installer.

Hope it helps.....

 

[Plonker 3]

How do you go about getting on their training course, can't seem to find the information on the website.

 

[rick.oshea]

Drop them an email or give them a call and they will advise - may have something planned in your area already or will take your request and when there is enough requests they will get back to you with course details

 

[Octopus]

How do you go about getting on their training course, can't seem to find the information on the website.

Call their sales line and get the name and mobile number for the area sales manager for your region - he'll get you the information you're after.