Spur from cooker supply

[Callumh1992]

Good Evening. I’m currently carrying out an EICR. I have a cooker circuit radial with a 32amp mcb fed from and RCD split board. There is a 45amp double pole switch fitted with a single socket on the plate. Fed in 6mm T+E.

Then there is a 2.5mm T+E off the load side of the cooker switch down to a single 13Amp switched socket.

My question is will this be within regs? Probably not the best practice I know but just want others opinion. As far as I understand it would be ok as the most current going along the 2.5mm would be 13amps?

Look forward to your opinions.

 

[timhoward]

It's quite common to see this coming out of a cooker plate to serve hob ignition.
If it's clipped and <3m long I've generally taken the view 433.2.2 ii) covers this scenario.

However, if there is no cooker/oven, just a single 13amp socket on switch and another one on the load side, would it not be simpler to just advise changing the MCB to 16 amps?

 

[Callumh1992]

It's quite common to see this coming out of a cooker plate to serve hob ignition.
If it's clipped and <3m long I've generally taken the view 433.2.2 ii) covers this scenario.

However, if there is no cooker/oven, just a single 13amp socket on switch and another one on the load side, would it not be simpler to just advise changing the MCB to 16 amps?

Hi. Unfortunately the cookers is connected to it

 

[James]

Good Evening. I’m currently carrying out an EICR. I have a cooker circuit radial with a 32amp mcb fed from and RCD split board. There is a 45amp double pole switch fitted with a single socket on the plate. Fed in 6mm T+E.

Then there is a 2.5mm T+E off the load side of the cooker switch down to a single 13Amp switched socket.

My question is will this be within regs? Probably not the best practice I know but just want others opinion. As far as I understand it would be ok as the most current going along the 2.5mm would be 13amps?

Look forward to your opinions.

Flip your thinking around, can you think of a reg that it contravenes?

 

[Callumh1992]

Flip your thinking around, can you think of a reg that it contravenes?

I’m hopeless with regs. That’s why I’m looking for advice?

 

[James]

errmm, why are you doing an EICR?

understanding the regulations is in my opinion one of the most important skills required to do electrical inspections.
installation is fine, you can generally focus on the regs that apply to the type of installation work you carry out.

but to inspect something you should have a better understanding than "I’m hopeless with regs."

Spend some time bringing your knowledge and skill level up, it is good to learn.

 

[timhoward]

I’m hopeless with regs. That’s why I’m looking for advice?

An interesting statement given what you are trying to do!
I'm trying to help you here.... you had an inkling there is something not quite right about this. You are actually right. What was it that made you think "hang on"?

 

[Callumh1992]

errmm, why are you doing an EICR?

understanding the regulations is in my opinion one of the most important skills required to do electrical inspections.
installation is fine, you can generall focus on the regs that apply to the type of installation work you carry out.

but to inspect something you should have a better understanding than "I’m hopeless with regs."

Spend some time bringing your knowledge and skill level up, it is good to learn.

An interesting statement given what you are trying to do!
I'm trying to help you here.... you had an inkling there is something not quite right about this. You are actually right. What was it that made you think "hang on"?

The change in cable size got me thinking. But I know there is a Reg about length of cables for tails etc. so thought I’d check.

 

[Callumh1992]

errmm, why are you doing an EICR?

understanding the regulations is in my opinion one of the most important skills required to do electrical inspections.
installation is fine, you can generally focus on the regs that apply to the type of installation work you carry out.

but to inspect something you should have a better understanding than "I’m hopeless with regs."

Spend some time bringing your knowledge and skill level up, it is good to learn.

I’m carrying out an EICR because it’s part of my Job as an approved electrician. It’s not that I’m hopeless I know a lot but there’s a lot I don’t. Part of learning I guess.

 

[James]

perhaps, i over reacted.
it was the quote

I’m hopeless with regs. That’s why I’m looking for advice?

left me a bit stunned.
I hope that the above statement is not actually correct.