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  1. littlespark
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    Quick description. I've got a socket on the RFC with a double socket already spurred off it. This socket has been replaced with a blank plate with the joint in the box. Customer would like another socket installed nearby but in opposite direction. Brick wall

    Solution 1. Change blank plate to SFU. Have both sockets off the fused outlet. (not a radial circuit, but 2 radials. with one point on each.)

    Solution 2. Change blank plate to SFU. Have original spur on supply side, new spur off fused outlet. (Not altering what was existing)

    Solution 3. Spend a little time chasing out the brickwork and have both spurs on the RFC. Replace the blank plate.
     
  2. buzzlightyear
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    buzzlightyear still kicking sand, before pushing up daisies . Electrician's Arms

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    me ,solution 2.
     
  3. Pete999
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    Wouldn't option 2 be 2 spurs off the same point on the RFC?
     
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  4. AJshep
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    Im a little confused with option 2 also.
    Are you saying the blank plate ( which is currently a spur off the ring) will be changed to a FCU then you will take the new socket off of the fused side.

    So your end up with a FCU (that will be your 1× spur point from the ring) then your new socket(s) will be spured from the 13amp output side of that ?
     
  5. Pete999
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    The way I read it is: the original spur will be fed from incoming side of the FSU and the new spur will be fed from the load side, I think.
     
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  6. AJshep
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    I get you, so a spur off of a spur like you mentioned in post 3
     
  7. sam400
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    sam400 Regular EF Member

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    Or
    4. assess circuit loading does it need 32 amps? convert to 20A radial and then spur yourself silly
     
  8. buzzlightyear
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    buzzlightyear still kicking sand, before pushing up daisies . Electrician's Arms

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    what came first the chicken or the egg.
     
  9. buzzlightyear
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    buzzlightyear still kicking sand, before pushing up daisies . Electrician's Arms

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    back in the book you go.
     
  10. buzzlightyear
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    buzzlightyear still kicking sand, before pushing up daisies . Electrician's Arms

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    looks like he's hit a brick wall.
     
  11. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Staff Member Trusted Advisor

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    This is a very strange question to ask.
     
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  12. Pete999
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    No I see it as he will have 4 wires in the input terminals ring and 2 Spurs,the original spur and the new spur ergo 2 Spurs off of the same point on thRfc
     
  13. littlespark
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    Not strange. Its a realistic scenario I'm faced with.
    No2 is as explained. 1 spur from supply side, 1 spur from load side. Is that classed as 2 spurs from the same point?
    No1 is 2 spurs from same point, but that's fused down, so is it acceptable?
    I wouldn't put 4 cables into one connection.
    The blank plate used to be a single socket on the ring. There is no socket now, just a joint in the box.
     
  14. anthonybragg
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    I'm confused now.
     
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  15. westward10
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    westward10 In echoed steps I walk across an empty dream. Staff Member Trusted Advisor

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    Can't you see option two is a multiple outlet spur?
     
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