what documents should be completed after initial veritication?

[Guest55]

TBH I have never known a MWC to be used for the addition of a new circuit. NAPIT obviously permit it on their MWC so if they stand by it then I don't have a problem. What does it say in the BGB regarding this (mines in work lol)

i'll tell ya exactly what the fookin regs say .............

"new circuit = EIC"

you can take that to the bank.
napit is going against the IET's requirements for the use of MWC , end of.

 

[Kate]

I fill out test sheets according to NAPIT rules as I pay enough every year to be with them. It wasn't your comments on this thread making me throw my dummy out of the pram, it was abusive PMs. The moderators have now fixed this. Your comments just topped it off.
I came on here to talk about electrics and have a laugh, all I've had over 24 hrs of abuse. Sorry for flipping, just had all I could handle and I knew what my form said

 

[Brightspark2]

What does it say in the BGB regarding this (mines in work lol)

The minor works certificate is intended to be used for additions and alterations to an installation that do not extend to the provision of a new circuit and so on.

 

[hotfingers]

I,m with napit, and yes Kate's right minor works.. Must be a napit thing

 

[Brightspark2]

I fill out test sheets according to NAPIT rules as I pay enough every year to be with them. It wasn't your comments on this thread making me throw my dummy out of the pram, it was abusive PMs. The moderators have now fixed this. Your comments just topped it off.
I came on here to talk about electrics and have a laugh, all I've had over 24 hrs of abuse. Sorry for flipping, just had all I could handle and I knew what my form said

You should be working to BS7671, not NAPITS rules. They are just a competent person scheme.

BS7671 says minor works are NOT for new circuits.

 

[micknew]

I fill out test sheets according to NAPIT rules as I pay enough every year to be with them. It wasn't your comments on this thread making me throw my dummy out of the pram, it was abusive PMs. The moderators have now fixed this. Your comments just topped it off.
I came on here to talk about electrics and have a laugh, all I've had over 24 hrs of abuse. Sorry for flipping, just had all I could handle and I knew what my form said

I bet you'll get flooded with apologies Kate, they should remember that a woman is always right!

 

[Plonker 3]

You should be working to BS7671, not NAPITS rules. They are just a competent person scheme.

BS7671 says minor works are NOT for new circuits.

BS 7671 are also only guidelines.


if as has been said previously competent persons scheme is happy for it too be used in this way then there are no problems.

 

[ipf]

The minor works certificate is intended to be used for additions and alterations to an installation that do not extend to the provision of a new circuit and so on.

Indicated that about 20 and 10 posts back

 

[Guest55]

oh , i am enjoying the banter tonite
wonder if the 24hr garage sells popcorn ?
;-)

 

[ipf]

BS 7671 are also only guidelines.


if as has been said previously competent persons scheme is happy for it too be used in this way then there are no problems.

I can see some coming up though, ha.

 

[Plonker 3]

Sod the popcorn, the garage across from my hotel is a off licence :50:

 

[Guest55]

no alcopops for me on a school nite , im a professional.
;-)

 

[Brightspark2]

BS 7671 are also only guidelines.


if as has been said previously competent persons scheme is happy for it too be used in this way then there are no problems.

Its a British standard to which we are trained to work to. One of the reasons the competent person schemes are there are to see we comply with this standard. They shouldn't be making up there own rule's.

Is there a real problem with her using it for this work? nope, your just not complying with the British standard.

 

[Plonker 3]

Thats where me and you differ then biff :yes:

 

[ipf]

BS 7671 are also only guidelines.


if as has been said previously competent persons scheme is happy for it too be used in this way then there are no problems.

They are what we go by though, 99% of the time, and the major guidelines for qualification, regulation wise.
If the point in question came up in any sort of qualification exam, I can imagine where the marks would be awarded.

edit: know

 

[Plonker 3]

Its a British standard to which we are trained to work to. One of the reasons the competent person schemes are there are to see we comply with this standard. They shouldn't be making up there own rule's.

Is there a real problem with her using it for this work? nope, your just not complying with the British standard.

Not saying it is right but should the proverbial hit the fan then if they use a MWC instead of a EIC then the brown stuff will fall firmly on then CPs door.

 

[markc123]

Its a British standard to which we are trained to work to. One of the reasons the competent person schemes are there are to see we comply with this standard. They shouldn't be making up there own rule's.

Is there a real problem with her using it for this work? nope, your just not complying with the British standard.

Aye i agree - she's only doing what she's told which is fair enough, but the scheme is wrong.

I wonder what would happen if you were to ring up napit and ask them to read the GN3 / BS7671 when it comes to test certs and see what they say.

To be honest (and i do read the info they say through the paper from time to time lol) elecsa could stipulate the same rule, but like i said when it comes to testing i read what GN3 says and not what elecsa are telling me to do.

 

[Ducksy]

So.......who's going to make the call/email to crap-it tomorrow and find out why they think a MWC is acceptable for and new final ring circuit?

Answers to be posted here please

 

[onions1066]

I agree with both sides here, I am registered with ECA and NICEIC. ECA minor works do include the provision of a new circuit to an existing installation. NICEIC doesn't. No right or wrong in my opinion.

 

[Octopus]

Back to the OP. BS 7671 states that an EIC should be issued when a new circuit is installed.

I also believe this is good practice too!

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