Wiring Telephone Points

[Noob2013]

Hi all,

Looking to wire several telephone points. One master telephone and two for sky boxes.

Would it be best to take a cable from the master telephone socket to a junction box then split it 2 ways?

Looking to use cat5e instead of telephone cable.

Cheers

 

[davesparks]

Traditionally phone points should be wired as a radial circuit. Only one master point is needed at the beginning of the circuit to create the ring signal.
Although sky boxes don't need the ringer you might as well connect it at those points as you'll have enough cores there.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Hi all,

Looking to wire several telephone points. One master telephone and two for sky boxes.

Would it be best to take a cable from the master telephone socket to a junction box then split it 2 ways?

Looking to use cat5e instead of telephone cable.

Cheers

run both cables for the telephone points for the sky boxes back to the master point or daisy chain them.

 

[yellowvanman]

Daisy chaining them should work OK, help if you have the correct tool.

 

[Noob2013]

Can more than 2 wires e terminated into a master point?

I've seen those jelly crimp for telephone cable.

 

[Eddiesparks]

Yes. Jelly crimps all good or get both in one termination if it makes a sound connection

 

[Darkwood]

Just buy a master with screw terminals as oppose to the punch down option then you can just twist them together.

 

[Eddiesparks]

I have often seen all telephone points done as a 'star' back to master

 

[davesparks]

Can more than 2 wires e terminated into a master point?

I've seen those jelly crimp for telephone cable.

Not reliably, more than 2 tend to fall out.

Back when BT were in charge of it all they wanted everything wired as a radial and not starred from a central point. To the point that their engineers would cop a real strop I'd they got called out to a property where it had been done as a star, when 9 times out of 10 it had been done by their engineers

 

[Octopus]

When you say master - have bt done their bit?

 

[Noob2013]

When you say master - have bt done their bit?

No.

There is an overhead line with a cable coming off of it which needs to be extended as it has been cut off by previous owner.

Are bt required to connect master?

 

[Eddiesparks]

Technically yes. But...

 

[davesparks]

No.

There is an overhead line with a cable coming off of it which needs to be extended as it has been cut off by previous owner.

Are bt required to connect master?

Nope, you can fit the master point, but of the line is dead then you'll still need BT out to reconnect/assign a number

 

[Octopus]

No.

There is an overhead line with a cable coming off of it which needs to be extended as it has been cut off by previous owner.

Are bt required to connect master?

i would get the home owner To sign up for a BT account and book an appointment to come and fit the master and check the phone works.

Once they have done their bit you can add your work to the customer "side" of the BT master with the knowledge that it works.

 

[Noob2013]

Thanks all

 

[amlu]

for voice and sky receivers anything will do. worth getting any broadband router plugged in the master socket, quality of line really matters in that case.

 

[UNG]

Hi all,

Looking to wire several telephone points. One master telephone and two for sky boxes.

Would it be best to take a cable from the master telephone socket to a junction box then split it 2 ways?

Looking to use cat5e instead of telephone cable.

Cheers

Cat 5e is ok to use although I would avoid using the CCA variety

Traditionally phone points should be wired as a radial circuit. Only one master point is needed at the beginning of the circuit to create the ring signal.
Although sky boxes don't need the ringer you might as well connect it at those points as you'll have enough cores there.

There is no need for the ringer circuit ( terminal 3 ) to be connected and connecting it can result in interference and poorer broadband speeds. The i-plate and newer VDSL filters mounted on the NTE 5 disconnect the ringer circuit because of the problems it causes

Just buy a master with screw terminals as oppose to the punch down option then you can just twist them together.

The plate where the extensions connect still has krone connectors I'm not aware of any with screw terminals. On the NTE 5 (Master) socket it will take one incomer and 2 outgoing cables.
If the NTE 5 is fitted with the additional VDSL filter you can have filtered and unfiltered extensions wired from the master

 

[7029 dave]

^^^^^ I will go with that.

 

[Swcfisher]

Sky boxes don't need telephone line anymore just get a free wifi adapter off of sky if you don't have one of the wifi had boxes.