Advice please, moving to the UK.

[UNG]

Not based on EU propaganda at all mate, Nissan and many others have said they're gone if we pull out. Some 15,000 people work there. There is a 1:4 ratio in their supply chain so there's 60,000 jobs gone in the companies that supply them. Using the same ratio gives us 240,000 tertiary jobs dependent on the spending power of those.
315,000 jobs in the North East alone.

So all Nissan's built in the UK are 100% UK sourced from a UK supply chain

It would also take 2 years for us to withdraw from the EU, plenty of time for those companies to negotiate with other countries. These companies have vast cash reserves so I don't think relocation would be that much of a problem.

Is this an absolute fact if this was the case I don't think there would be as much inter company collaboration as they try to spread development and manufacturing costs

Also remember, they came here because of funding from a near bankrupt UK at the time. We found the cash, so would Germany or France if it was going to substantially benefit their employment figures

So you agree the EU would cease to exist.

Yes there are countries who trade with the EU without membership of it however they are forced to comply with existing and future EU legislation regarding the goods they ship there so the cost to business is still high

See above

More a matter for the police I'd say, if your mate's wife thinks a crime is being committed then she should report it. Things like this happen because they are allowed to (although I have heard exactly the same story in the North East. It was supposedly a shop in the west end of Newcastle so perhaps it's another urban myth. Maybe there's a photo of the shop and the sign somewhere. I'll take a look on the net for it)

What law have they broken?

 

[UNG]

In or out of the EU hmmm. Well living in Scotland all I will say on the matter is I really wish this in/out referendum was held before the Scotland in/out UK referendum as the result of the EU referendum would greatly influence my thinking on the Scottish one. Scotland may be seen as "mad" on thinking about leaving the UK......but even they/we know that the future lies within the EU not on the outside looking in.
Actually I hope 1 Scotland leaves the UK and 2. RUK leaves the EU....then WE can have the UK's relinquished membership and maybe we could persuade nissan ect to just hope over the hadrians wall and set up here with us.....Be some work in rebuilding that wall too as you lot wouldn't be entitled to the "freedom" of movement that Farage and his chums so hate.

I don't think it quite works like that and if it did would Scotland want to give the EU £385 million a week to plug the financial hole left by the UK

 

[Diddy]

I don't think it quite works like that and if it did would Scotland want to give the EU £385 million a week to plug the financial hole left by the UK

Does the EU not give some of this cash back to the UK through grants and subsidies ? Even if it is a net loss of £385m as you state I would not have thought that a smaller country such as Scotland would be required to match the current UK fees.

 

[dingledong]

Ok let's say 200 million !!! You ain't got five Bob yes build your wall high ban English people then we repatriate all the Scots ,give us a bit of space
Salmond is nuts Scotland cannot survive on its own
Plus college is free in Scotland I think well that won't last long you will have every young pounce in Europe heading there getting there exams and leaving

 

[trev]

So that will be one although is that all that can be claimed while out of work in Ireland
I have no idea not being Irish, Germany also has a higher rate of dole



Wage rates were under pressure before the financial crisis hit as we were being swamped by migrants to fill the Labour government's perceived labour shortage. Under the last Labour government I was subbing for about £3 more ph than I am at present



But only fully signed up to by none other than Tony Blair

Bull. Who signed the Maastricht treaty, who signed us up for the disaster that was the ERM

 

[trev]

So all Nissan's built in the UK are 100% UK sourced from a UK supply chain
Don't try to put words in my mouth. I'm talking about jobs at Nissan's UK base and the UK jobs that depend on it and you know that. I have no idea how many foreign jobs depend on the Sunderland plant's orders and frankly I don't care.


Is this an absolute fact if this was the case I don't think there would be as much inter company collaboration as they try to spread development and manufacturing costs
Companies collaborate all the time, why should Nissan be any different. Collaboration and cost spreading doesn't mean anything other than they do it because they can and it's commercially viable for them to do it



So you agree the EU would cease to exist.
No I don't, the UK leaving would cause problems but they'd most likely get over them



See above



What law have they broken?

Several anti discrimination laws.

 

[Guest77]

Bull. Who signed the Maastricht treaty, who signed us up for the disaster that was the ERM

Yes and Ted Heath got us into it in the first place.

 

[trev]

Yes and Ted Heath got us into it in the first place.

Exactly, the vast majority of the BS we've been fed over the years has been tory BS.
Words cannot express how much I despise them.

 

[Guest77]

Exactly, the vast majority of the BS we've been fed over the years has been tory BS.
Words cannot express how much I despise them.

Yes I agree, we have Rupert Murdoch who runs several media outlets and who is a huge Conservative supporter just one example of how the tories get their message out, How David cameron managed to sell off the post office without anyone knowing about it until it was too late is still beyond me. The fact it was sold for 3 billion under it's value another shock and yet it was hardly mentioned in the news, also a month after selling the post office thousands were laid off, again no mention of it in the news, yet Ed milliband not being able to eat a bacon sandwich properly was all over the press for 2 days, propaganda, end of.

 

[UNG]

Bull. Who signed the Maastricht treaty, who signed us up for the disaster that was the ERM

Until Blair signed on the dotted line to the full human rights act in 1997 we still had the death penalty for some crimes which was only finally abolished in 1998

 

[Guest77]

Until Blair signed on the dotted line to the full human rights act in 1997 we still had the death penalty for some crimes which was only finally abolished in 1998

Thank god for that, I personally don't agree with it because this country is well renown for sending innocent people to prison, now if a paedo was caught red handed interfereing with a small child then I agree the death penalty should apply, the problem with it is how to define what is a crime which deserves the death penalty, anyhow I am done arguing over politics, I actually agree with a lot of your replies, just think all poiliticians are ----ers the whole lot of them, but the tories the biggest of them all thats all, get a beer in you and forget all about this political bull ****e.

 

[GMES]

Agreed^^ Friday night is fun time not bloody Question time

 

[shanky887614]

Agreed^^ Friday night is fun time not bloody Question time

Anyway why are you not in the pub you should be ashamed of yourselfs!!!

myself Im heading there straight after a shower

 

[GMES]

Anyway why are you not in the pub you should be ashamed of yourselfs!!!

myself Im heading there straight after a shower

Up at 5 in morning mate so no beer for me, and whats worse is if I don't get the unit wired tomorrow then there will be no beer tomorrow night either...:sweatdrop:

 

[shanky887614]

Up at 5 in morning mate so no beer for me, and whats worse is if I don't get the unit wired tomorrow then there will be no beer tomorrow night either...:sweatdrop:

ah hopefully it gets done.

what do you still need to do? second fix?

ive got the weekend off which is nice

 

[GMES]

It's all white conduit work pal, it shouldn't be to bad even though it is 200 yards from the main stage for the Tramlines music weekend in Sheffield, they were doing all the sound checks today and it was Bloody loud,should be good tomorrow for free music.
Although I did feel old when I tried to explain to my lad who Sister Sledge where ( main act )
Artists » Tramlines Festival 2014

 

[shanky887614]

It's all white conduit work pal, it shouldn't be to bad even though it is 200 yards from the main stage for the Tramlines music weekend in Sheffield, they were doing all the sound checks today and it was Bloody loud,should be good tomorrow for free music.
Although I did feel old when I tried to explain to my lad who Sister Sledge where ( main act )
Artists » Tramlines Festival 2014

to be honest the band I liked the most at download were twisted sister.

hadn't heard of a lot of the others

 

[trev]

to be honest the band I liked the most at download were twisted sister.

hadn't heard of a lot of the others

I absolutely love Twisted Sister, my mate was playing at download this year (as he usually does) but I couldn't make it. Would have loved to have have a chinwag with Dee Snider.

 

[shanky887614]

I absolutely love Twisted Sister, my mate was playing at download this year (as he usually does) but I couldn't make it. Would have loved to have have a chinwag with Dee Snider.

stepdads had the were not gonna take it as his ringtone on works phone for a while XD

 

[trev]

Until Blair signed on the dotted line to the full human rights act in 1997 we still had the death penalty for some crimes which was only finally abolished in 1998

The death penalty for some crimes was just a hangover mate, it would never have been given to anyone. Christ even before 1965 you only got it for murder not fire in her majesty's docks or obstructing the passage of the monarch.

 

[Silly Sausage]

just think all poiliticians are ----ers the whole lot of them, but the tories the biggest of them all thats all, get a beer in you and forget all about this political bull ****e.

BBC News - Astrology-loving MP seeks health answers in the stars

Having just consulted my star chart, it appears I'll be voting Tory next year!

 

[GMES]

Well Shanky and Trev if you pop down to the tramlines event tomorrow just pop your head behind the main stage over the fence, and come and give me a quick hand, I will be the one with ear defenders on stood in a puddle of sweat!!

 

[shanky887614]

Well Shanky and Trev if you pop down to the tramlines event tomorrow just pop your head behind the main stage over the fence, and come and give me a quick hand, I will be the one with ear defenders on stood in a puddle of sweat!!

Im not going to the event but I might pop down there for a nosy.

might not though shefield is about an hour away

 

[GMES]

Im not going to the event but I might pop down there for a nosy.

might not though Sheffield is about an hour away

It will be rammed mate it starts tonight and ends Sunday, I wouldn't be there if I didn't need to be.
But if you do come remember it's fancy dress so come as an electrician :smilewinkgrin:

 

[shanky887614]

It will be rammed mate it starts tonight and ends Sunday, I wouldn't be there if I didn't need to be.
But if you do come remember it's fancy dress so come as an electrician :smilewinkgrin:

ok I will I can wear my new work gear (I couldn't find my hI viz

 

[trev]

Well Shanky and Trev if you pop down to the tramlines event tomorrow just pop your head behind the main stage over the fence, and come and give me a quick hand, I will be the one with ear defenders on stood in a puddle of sweat!!

I'm picking my grandson up at 9 am tomorrow but if you can guest list us I'll try to get there

 

[Octopus]

Ok let's say 200 million !!! You ain't got five Bob yes build your wall high ban English people then we repatriate all the Scots ,give us a bit of space
Salmond is nuts Scotland cannot survive on its own
Plus college is free in Scotland I think well that won't last long you will have every young pounce in Europe heading there getting there exams and leaving

Actually I'm planning on retiring to Scotland so if the misses or I need residential care it will be paid for by the tax payer, and not by us......

 

[shanky887614]

Actually I'm planning on retiring to Scotland so if the misses or I need residential care it will be paid for by the tax payer, and not by us......

there are country's in the uk where it is free as well if they do leave

(editd country to county)

 

[Octopus]

there are counties in the uk where it is free as well if they do leave

So Wales and Northern Ireland?

 

[shanky887614]

So Wales and Northern Ireland?

sorry being lazy with auto correct I meant countys

 

[Octopus]

sorry being lazy with auto correct I meant countys

So which Counties have this free of charge?

 

[shanky887614]

So which Counties have this free of charge?

im sure derbyshire does and others as well

 

[dingledong]

Poor old donkeydaz I bet he's wondering what he started

 

[UNG]

The death penalty for some crimes was just a hangover mate, it would never have been given to anyone. Christ even before 1965 you only got it for murder not fire in her majesty's docks or obstructing the passage of the monarch.

Really !!! CBADIWY

 

[trev]

Cbadiwy?

 

[Guest77]

cbaeiwtdsb

 

[R G]

cbaeiwtdsb

Is that Welsh ??

 

[trev]

cbaeiwtdsb

Eh? No idea what you 2 are on about.

 

[Guest77]

Is that Welsh ??

No shrek talk, you should understand it, dogs have good hearing

 

[micknew]

Vote UKIP and get OUR country back.

 

[GMES]

....

 

[Guest77]

cbaeiwtdsb

can't be asked either i want to drink some beer

 

[trev]

Vote UKIP and get OUR country back.

Vote UKIP and say goodbye to a lot of worker's rights
Vote UKIP and say goodbye to statutory maternity pay
Vote UKIP and say goodbye to a lot of equality legislation
Vote UKIP and isolate the UK internationally
Vote UKIP to turn the clock back at least 50 years.
The UK that they paint as some wonderful idyllic place never existed.

 

[Guest77]

Vote UKIP and get OUR country back.

:89:you really do want a Friday night punch up with Trev don't you lol

 

[dingledong]

Give them a chance trev they haven't said anything about your list yet . Their platform at the moment isn't that big
Hmmm the communist party doesn't seem to be doing that well at the moment

 

[trev]

Give them a chance trev they haven't said anything about your list yet . Their platform at the moment isn't that big
Hmmm the communist party doesn't seem to be doing that well at the moment

Yes they have and I'm a socialist not a communist mate. There is a difference

 

[Octopus]

Yes they have and I'm a socialist not a communist mate. There is a difference

Cripes - so you've got nobody to vote into office then!

 

[Guest77]

http://www.electriciansforums.co.uk/politics-economy/93395-mikes-friday-night-politics-thread.html

 

[dingledong]

And if every one voted national front and they got in on a landslide the government is so slow to act that us cannon fodder would not see much difference anyway

 

[trev]

Cripes - so you've got nobody to vote into office then!

There's always the Greens