Discuss AFDD in 18th 2nd Amendment in the Electrical Wiring, Theories and Regulations area at ElectriciansForums.net
I get it - you think the regs should be re-worded as you doubt the meaning of 'shall' and believe others are likely to find themselves in the same boat.After all this you still do not get it.
This may very well be the same personI mentioned a video that was recently posted in which one person had the same issue, but I'm sure it would be possible to find a YouTube video in which people struggle with the meaning of any word.
As does the English dictionaryThere has never been any doubt in my mind that the word "shall" means that it is not optional.
However, I am to some extent a product of the environment I was raised in, and this is the interpretation of "shall" that I was always exposed to. I do not rule out that others' experiences may differ to my own.
Languages are fluid and words and their meanings can change over time.
This is why it's good that the writers/editors of the wiring regulations see fit to include definitions that make clear the intended use of such important wordage.
Agreed. It's probably the oddest conversations I've found myself reading. And very polite responses from all.I must I remember that I shall never read through threads like this again!
A sensible post. The regs are a part of the building regulation which are law.I remember having a conversation 2 maybe 3 editions ago on a regs course and it came up that the regs had more of a legal leaning the way they had been written and the guy running the course said they had been written so the legal eagles had a better and clearer understanding of the regs when prosecuting someone who had breached the regs so maybe we should become lawyers so we can understand what we are supposed to be doing.
..or use firm words with no ambiguity.Languages are fluid and words and their meanings can change over time.
This is why it's good that the writers/editors of the wiring regulations see fit to include definitions that make clear the intended use of such important wordage.
Please advise...what is a AFDD for?
Are you sure the question didn’t have a sarcastic intent?Arc fault detection. I would do an Internet search, there's loads of information about them.
Ambiguity only exists if one doesn't understand the meaning of words. This thread has firmly established the meaning of the word in question, highlighted that its meaning is clarified within the regs and how easily words can be defined by consulting a dictionary...or use firm words with no ambiguity.
I agree.Ambiguity only exists if one doesn't understand the meaning of words. This thread has firmly established the meaning of the word in question, highlighted that its meaning is clarified within the regs and how easily words can be defined by consulting a dictionary.
There's nothing left of this discussion to labour over and, as I've previously suggested, your objection would be better raised with the IET.
Wouldn't be the same fella, would it.This is one of those threads that will go on forever with little point. It reminds me of a couple of threads from a while ago, can't remember who they were started by though
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