"Electricians" working for kitchen fitters - please don't do this...

[ipf]

The trade is governed by standards ....! I really wish it was and only governed by Government not private companies . Far too many people just want a cheap job and dont worry about the risks etc .And many trades will pick up these jobs as they are always cash and easy .

Indeed, they will, but being a qualified tradesperson should involve an element of conscience as well as a fair amount of conscientious skill.
These are just selfless idiots.....and by the bus load.
The deterioration is frightening and, as said for the last 10 years, things continue to worsen.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Some incredibly shoddy work I have seen the people who actually did it when you speak yo them are convinced their work is decent

not everyone has high standards , infact I would argue most people have quite low standards

 

[nicebutdim]

The new kitchen isn’t much better. Joiner had (almost) drilled through a cable which is in a safe zone, and he’s cut the plug off the brand new fridge freezer rather than drill a big enough hole.

I reckon pot luck is employed when fitting wall units - they don't seem to care if an accessory is directly below - just cross fingers and close eyes.

 

[telectrix]

I reckon pot luck is employed when fitting wall units - they don't seem to care if an accessory is directly below - just cross fingers and close eyes.

morerlike cross eyes and close brain.

 

[brianmoooore]

It's not always the fault of the kitchen fitter. If the fixing bracket for a wall unit has to go there, it has to go there.
Whenever I've wired a kitchen, I've obtained a copy of the plans, confirmed with the client that these are the final plans, written in stone, and won't be deviated from. then confirmed that again a day or two later. I then design the electrics so that my chases come, as near as possible, to the middle of the gap between where all the unit fixings will be, or at least, well away from them.

 

[littlespark]

In this instance, it was the original cooker cable, not a circuit i had to work on... just refitting the hob where it had been previously. Running down to the floor. Just so happened to be in line where two base units met. He was going to screw those little metal right angle brackets to the wall.
Luckily he did ask where the cable might be....

 

[nicebutdim]

It's not always the fault of the kitchen fitter. If the fixing bracket for a wall unit has to go there, it has to go there.
Whenever I've wired a kitchen, I've obtained a copy of the plans, confirmed with the client that these are the final plans, written in stone, and won't be deviated from. then confirmed that again a day or two later. I then design the electrics so that my chases come, as near as possible, to the middle of the gap between where all the unit fixings will be, or at least, well away from them.

Fair point, but most of the kitchens I see are solid backed and fixings don't need to be in an exact spot.

 

[telectrix]

Fair point, but most of the kitchens I see are solid backed and fixings don't need to be in an exact spot.

yous got kitchens in Ireland????? whatever next. flush toilets? ???

 

[nicebutdim]

yous got kitchens in Ireland????? whatever next. flush toilets? ???

Flushed over the back fence...

 

[brianmoooore]

Fair point, but most of the kitchens I see are solid backed and fixings don't need to be in an exact spot.

Base units, maybe, but most wall units have two brackets that fit to the wall 20mm in from the outer edge of the cabinet, and engage with fittings on the cabinet that allow up and down adjustment to position them accurately.