Green Deal & Eco Funds

[Eco Deal]

yes you need a two year minuim warranty on boilers

 

[Crusader]

Does anybody know of any companies that currently have eco finance available, one of our providers have let us down and run out of cash!

 

[SRE]

So original Green Deal quietly dies while it's proclaimed to be a success because it's now ECO?

 

[Eco Deal]

Eco funding as gone to the dogs already !

 

[SRE]

What do you mean? Allocated to all the big guys?? Have you seen the Encraft assessment of GD so far - really interesting.

 

[Greenday]

£300 pound for a boiler change and you have to provide £100 of pipe and fittings!

That's a lot of profit to the provider and none to the installer!

No thanks. I can't put a guy in a van and cover his NI fuel and holidays for that and keep up the GDI and all the admin involved.

 

[SRE]

Shameful but not unexpected. Makes my blood boil!

 

[Gavin A]

£300 pound for a boiler change and you have to provide £100 of pipe and fittings!

That's a lot of profit to the provider and none to the installer!

No thanks. I can't put a guy in a van and cover his NI fuel and holidays for that and keep up the GDI and all the admin involved.

so £465 boiler, with £300 installation fee inc parts....... now that's a real recipe for a quality boiler installation that's going to stand the test of time, and not end up with CO poisonings, condensate pipes freezing in winter, etc etc

Can't see how anyone's going to be able to powerflush the heating system for that price either, so the boiler will be gunged up immediately.

I predict lots of angry consumer articles and watchdog reports next winter about all these ECO boilers that are failing and leaving vulnerable householders with no heating in freezing conditions, and the install company is nowhere to be seen for the warranty as they went bust as soon as the eco funding ran out.

£2k is about the right price at the bottom end for a proper quality condensing boiler installation with powerflush, internal condensate drains to prevent winter freezing etc etc from a company that will still be in business to honour the warranty IMO. Maybe you could shave 20-30% off that for bulk, but not 60-70%.

disaster in the making here, people will die from the cold / CO poisoning / gas explosions as a result IMO.

 

[Greenday]

Funds available are much in excess of £2000!

If you have a EPR and refer to ECO brokerage you can work it out for yourself.

Installers won't be getting a fair share though! All geared for BG and the like.

 

[Gavin A]

Funds available are much in excess of £2000!

If you have a EPR and refer to ECO brokerage you can work it out for yourself.

no idea what any of that is, so I assume I can't, or at least can't be bothered.

Installers won't be getting a fair share though! All geared for BG and the like.

yeah, I saw that one coming.

 

[sedgy34]

Interesting

 

[sedgy34]

So greendeal finance is almost available the solar industry will be kick started again won't it

 

[SRE]

With the hikes due in August? I can't see it - can you?

 

[sedgy34]

I sure can mate solar will be just 1 of 3,4,5 different measures on a green deal plan

 

[TedM]

no idea what any of that is, so I assume I can't, or at least can't be bothered.

The EPR tells you how much CO2 is (supposed) to be saved by a new boiler.

GD Brokerage tells you how much an amount of CO2 savings is priced at.

Multiply one by the other to get the GD ECO value of the boiler replacement.

 

[SRE]

Well I certainly hope it does, you've worked hard at it for long enough

 

[sedgy34]

Trouble is where are the greendeal customers lol are they Eco customers in disguise

 

[Greenday]

That's nearly right. Boilers are priced at pounds saving over life of boiler and then auctioned at pence in the pound.

The providers are trying to keep all the real profit but its a risk if they can't fulfil their commitment to brokerage. So installers hang fire especially if you can deliver big numbers!

We all need to make a living and low prices to installers will just deliver crap jobs!

 

[sedgy34]

The providers have had some meetings and I'm assuming have decided together to screw the installer a bit more

 

[Greenday]

I'm talking about ECO! Plenty of enquiries for Green Deal shame system isn't working!

BG obviously not interested whilst they are emptying the ECO pot!

Suspect there will be lots of installer casualties! Only for the brave or stupid!