Help needed to review quality of distributer box installation

[SparkyChick]

Yes both boards were replaced plus electric shower was also replaced in the bathroom.what i find strange is that the tails were hanging out of the gromits and one of the neutrals was exposed when they had been clearly hidden in the first place also the customer had already said that they had a previous electrician who done shawdy work as they put it and hadnt paid them!!why hadnt they contacted them to tell them about this but instead went onto a forum and tried to slate them !!!

Was the electric shower replaced? Don't recall seeing a mention of that in any of the posts thus far.

The OP didn't come onto the forum slating someone, they came on looking for some advice (although I suspect they knew what the answer would be).

What I do find quite interesting is this is your first post on the forums, you're in Glasgow, there's no electrical qualifications in your profile and the excess exclamation marks adding emphasis suggest you might be a little angry at potentially an individual not being paid for doing shoddy work and potentially for that individual getting a slating in public.

So I have to ask... are you the person who did the installation that has been photographed here? Your post makes me think maybe you might be.

 

[David Houston Blyth]

Yes both boards were replaced plus electric shower was also replaced in the bathroom.what i find strange is that the tails were hanging out of the gromits and one of the neutrals was exposed when they had been clearly hidden in the first place also the customer had already said that they had a previous electrician who done shawdy work as they put it and hadnt paid them!!why hadnt they contacted them to tell them about this but instead went onto a forum and tried to slate them !!!

Was the electric shower replaced? Don't recall seeing a mention of that in any of the posts thus far.

The OP didn't come onto the forum slating someone, they came on looking for some advice (although I suspect they knew what the answer would be).

What I do find quite interesting is this is your first post on the forums, you're in Glasgow, there's no electrical qualifications in your profile and the excess exclamation marks adding emphasis suggest you might be a little angry at potentially an individual not being paid for doing shoddy work and potentially for that individual getting a slating in public.

So I have to ask... are you the person who did the installation that has been photographed here? Your post makes me think maybe you might be.

No i wasn't the one who done the instalation but i was the one who fitted the shower on that job

 

[Isaac k]

Was the electric shower replaced? Don't recall seeing a mention of that in any of the posts thus far.

Forgot to mention that there was also a shower installation included in the price (£70), however the unit was purcased by myself

 

[SparkyChick]

No i wasn't the one who done the instalation but i was the one who fitted the shower on that job

Were you working directly for the client or were you working for the person who did the electrical work?

 

[David Houston Blyth]

Yeah,i find it strange that you never contacted the person who done the job but decided to post this on a forum instead

 

[David Houston Blyth]

Were you working directly for the client or were you working for the person who did the electrical work?

 

[SparkyChick]

Yeah,i find it strange that you never contacted the person who done the job but decided to post this on a forum instead

To be fair, this forum serves a lot of purposes and one of those is as a place where people can get second opinions. That's what has happened here, people are entitled to seek advice, especially when they think they might be being taken for a ride.

 

[Leesparkykent]

Yeah,i find it strange that you never contacted the person who done the job but decided to post this on a forum instead

Why do you find it strange that the OP has come on here asking opinions? The installation is appalling and whoever done it should be embarrassed.

 

[David Houston Blyth]

I was asked to fit the shower from the person who done the work.what i also find strange is that i was at the same house the following day to change they're water supply to mains and fix an air lock and they hadnt mentioned to me about any fault or to tell the person about this issue

 

[Leesparkykent]

I was asked to fit the shower from the person who done the work.what i also find strange is that i was at the same house the following day to change they're water supply to mains and fix an air lock and they hadnt mentioned to me about any fault or to tell the person about this issue

You seem to find many things strange....If I was you I wouldn’t do and future work along side this chancer as you may get tarred with the same brush.

 

[SparkyChick]

I was asked to fit the shower from the person who done the work.what i also find strange is that i was at the same house the following day to change they're water supply to mains and fix an air lock and they hadnt mentioned to me about any fault or to tell the person about this issue

Maybe they weren't sure, hence they wanted a second opinion.

At the end of the day, it looks to me like the gripe is not with you, but with the chancer that did the electrical work. As
@Leesparkykent says, steer clear if this is the kind of work they are doing.

 

[Deuce]

Well, this just keeps getting better. Or maybe worse...

Increasingly bemusing at least!

I don't personally see how a plumber can be competent enough to replace an electric shower and somehow not notice his mate has left a CU install in the next room looking like a terrorist device with wires hanging out the top. But maybe it's just me

 

[Sintra]

I was asked to fit the shower from the person who done the work.what i also find strange is that i was at the same house the following day to change they're water supply to mains and fix an air lock and they hadnt mentioned to me about any fault or to tell the person about this issue

Think you need to stay away from electrical works and stick to your pipes and water where the worst you can do is flood the place and not kill someone. It’s people like you that bring this trade down by ripping people off. Go and park your horse somewhere where it’s welcome.

 

[Deuce]

Think you need to stay away from electrical works and stick to your pipes and water where the worst you can do is flood the place and not kill someone. It’s people like you that bring this trade down by ripping people off. Go and park your horse somewhere where it’s welcome.

Woah.. You read that this guy didn't do the CU install? Just swapped out an old electric shower for new.

I accept that replacing an electric shower does require competence and testing, neither of which could exist as we know now that that the CU feeding the shower would be instantly dis-satisfactory to any competent person, and that that no part of it was tested as it has failed to test satisfactorily on subsequent inspection.

But apparently it's OK for just about anyone north of the border to carry out this kind of work, which is odd.. But also the biggest cock up was the CU fitted by the other guy. For all we know, the shower itself is perfectly OK. Not that that excuses connecting the shower to that mess of a CU without flagging concerns at the very least.

 

[David Houston Blyth]

Think you need to stay away from electrical works and stick to your pipes and water where the worst you can do is flood the place and not kill someone. It’s people like you that bring this trade down by ripping people off. Go and park your horse somewhere where it’s welcome.

Where do you come up with

Think you need to stay away from electrical works and stick to your pipes and water where the worst you can do is flood the place and not kill someone. It’s people like you that bring this trade down by ripping people off. Go and park your horse somewhere where it’s welcome.

Thats pretty funny considering i never done the electrical work it was plumbing work and where do you come up with ripping people off ?Also bringing what trade down the best thing for you to do is crawl back under that rock from which you came as you obviously never read what i wrote properly

 

[Deuce]

Thats pretty funny considering i never done the electrical work it was plumbing work...

Did you disconnect or reconnect the electrical supply to the shower you replaced?

 

[Toneyz]

This is turning out to be a bit of a witch hunt against the wrong person. Not a good reply from a staff member as well.

 

[SparkyChick]

This is turning out to be a bit of a witch hunt against the wrong person. Not a good reply from a staff member as well.

There is a thread running in the pub.

 

[Deuce]

This is turning out to be a bit of a witch hunt against the wrong person. Not a good reply from a staff member as well.

Agree.

Although it's very odd that the person who wasn't to blame and was never originally accused of doing anything pops up to question why this thread is slamming the work of the guy that fitted the CU.

I don't agree with witch hunt mentality. But it's a fact that the installation was left in a potentially dangerous state and it's worth hunting out the truth behind what creates any dangerous situation. I don't feel we're at the point of truth on this one just yet.

 

[Toneyz]

There is a thread running in the pub.

Do you mean the Arms? As I am reading this in the open forum.

 

[SparkyChick]

Do you mean the Arms? As I am reading this in the open forum.

Yes

 

[Sintra]

Where do you come up with

Thats pretty funny considering i never done the electrical work it was plumbing work and where do you come up with ripping people off ?Also bringing what trade down the best thing for you to do is crawl back under that rock from which you came as you obviously never read what i wrote properly

As if one wet pants would get another one in to do the shower. Don’t believe that for one second.

This is turning out to be a bit of a witch hunt against the wrong person. Not a good reply from a staff member as well.

Why’s that then?

 

[Toneyz]

As if one wet pants would get another one in to do the shower. Don’t believe that for one second.

Why’s that then? Especially if I know the full story.

Been in the pub you obviously had known something that didn't or read.

 

[Deuce]

As if one wet pants would get another one in to do the shower. Don’t believe that for one second.

Why’s that then? Especially if I know the full story.

I think none of our imaginations would be stretched to guess the full story...

I done thunk one person done did it all. Just my guess I done, don't quote me on it!

 

[Toneyz]

I think none of our imaginations would be stretched to guess the full story...

I done thunk one person done did it all. Just my guess I done, don't quote me on it!

To have one person to do rubbish work like that but to employ two people and is just as bad .

 

[Toneyz]

Looking at the photo's that work has not been done by a competent electrician. The idea is that the upgrade work should leave the installation in a safer condition not worse.

 

[Deuce]

To have one person to do rubbish work like that but to employ two people and is just as bad .

I'm yet to be convinced there were two people. But if there were, they probably met on the Screwfix forum and decided that 2 wrongs could make a profit.

 

[Toneyz]

Why do you find it strange that the OP has come on here asking opinions? The installation is appalling and whoever done it should be embarrassed.

Embarrassed more like ashamed.

 

[Octopus]

Another thread where I don't think we are being told the whole "story"

 

[EDMOND MATOSHI]

That is shockingly bad . How does anyone produce that kind of work and except to get paid is beyond my understanding.
Shocking

 

[Pete999]

That is shockingly bad . How does anyone produce that kind of work and except to get paid is beyond my understanding.
Shocking

People are far too trusting Mate, they tell the customer all the BS and being, perhaps naive is the wrong word, not street wise is a better explanation, they take the words of the Rouges of this industry as Gospel, it's unfortunate but sadly true for a percentage of the population, especially the aged, shame on them, hope they get their just deserts in the contracting world of the afterlife (not the aged or anyone else who has been conned by these rascals) the rascals themselves.

 

[MG201]

Hi everyone,

I just had my distributer box upgraded to an RCD box, and I was wondering if anyone could advise me on the quality of the work done here. I know that changing these boxes is a nightmare to do, and truth be told our wiring was a mess before, but for the price we payed I don't believe there should be electrical tape and exposed wires coming out of the box. Also you can see the housing for the old night electricity box which they have decided to leave and they also chose not to cover the channel with all the exposed wires. I'm just curious to see what this forum's take is on this work, and if it was worth the £700 I payed for it.

Thanks!

(This is my first post, so if I am in the wrong category I apologise)
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I did not see is the person accredited? Either select or NICEIC

 

[MG201]

There was a point raised in the Scottish Parliament this week about making electricians a professionally registered profession and try do away with cow boys , seemingly there is a big problem with people from south of border who have completed a 3 weeks domestic installer cert getting passed off as electricians , part P realy made the issue worse as there is never enough tradesmen to cover the country

 

[MG201]

Here is a great article

https://www.select.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Report-Electrician-As-A-Profession.pdf

 

[richy3333]

I started this thread recently about a electrical trainee
Today’s finds by a 3 weeker - https://www.electriciansforums.co.uk/threads/todays-finds-by-a-3-weeker.169234/

We’ve had words Says he’s a fully qualified domestic electrician. I asked what that was and he couldn’t tell me also said all his work complies with Part P!! Had to point out it doesn’t exist in Scotland!

I asked where the certificate was and he said it was on his clipboard. He did the work in May FFS. So I suggested he pass it on to the customer only to find out that he went back to the installation yesterday. He was up in the room for inexcess of 2 hours before I left the site and still no evidence of an EIC. We were working at the origin of the installation so he clearly didn’t do an external earth loop impedance gets.

Please Scotland sort these people out!

 

[MG201]

All the tape alone is a fire hazard why would u put all that tape round connections, I don’t understand why theee is no need for domestic installs to provide insurance with an eicr only rented properties are mandatory so why not all , surely all domestic should be tested as suggested 10 yearly max

 

[ferg]

Always wondered why some people don't give a location on their profile .... Or give something really vague like South!

Because it's absolutely none of your bloody business where I live.

 

[Octopus]

Because it's absolutely none of your bloody business where I live.

You are a bit touchy about this .....

 

[Phillip]

First, that's totally not acceptable, a right clown job, second he's £300 at least overpriced, even if it was done right, and lastly don't pay him and get a real electrician in. Not necessarily in a scam scheme, but one who can provide real qualifications.

 

[ferg]

You are a bit touchy about this .....

I'm just fed up with you banging on about profiles TBH.
I'll get over it...... eventually.

 

[Octopus]

I'm just fed up with you banging on about profiles TBH.
I'll get over it...... eventually.

Not banging on .......

 

[MG201]

this Article clearly states the issue

 

[MG201]

2nd part

 

[Dave OCD]

JK - I've just read your comments on the 'VCR' that you produced and I have to say that's excellent ! We need more people like you in the trade .

 

[MG201]

JK - I've just read your comments on the 'VCR' that you produced and I have to say that's excellent ! We need more people like you in the trade .

Page 6 lol thanks

 

[Dave OCD]

Page 6 lol thanks

Well the thing is mate with so many on here chatting all the time some of us have to be out there getting on with the work, so I sometimes have to do a bit of catching up on here.

 

[JK-Electrical]

Not banging on .......

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[JK-Electrical]

JK - I've just read your comments on the 'VCR' that you produced and I have to say that's excellent ! We need more people like you in the trade .

Thank you Dave.

 

[Toneyz]

Some things should be kept in the pub.

 

[Toneyz]

This is the problem with Electrical Trainee/boil in the bag electricians they do all the academic side ok and have a limited practical experiance from the booths think they are a electrician get a job and are out of their depth through lack of (practical) experiance.

Not all of us

I racked up lots of practical experience of all sorts of building and electrical work before I climbed out of my office cubicle. But, from my personal experience, you're largely on the money.

To the two that put a disagree I am referring to someone who has absolutely no experience at all postman one day 5 weeks later an electrician replacing consumer units and rewiring houses.