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Hmmm. Well he can't have it both ways - his test results actually portray the fixed wiring as being in excellent condition. (The insulation resistance tests for all circuits are all >200M.). If the overall condition is as bad as he says I'd be very surprised to get those readings. The discrepancy between the overall comments and the test results make me wonder if those tests actually happened or the readings were invented.

I also noticed 4.17 - RCD's required for fault protection. This should not be a C2. Fault protection is covered by other methods on your installation and the tests results show it will work. I worry when I see this as it doesn't build confidence.

Also, he's listed type AC RCD protection for each circuit. This is very confusing.

So far, at a minimum and obviously without seeing it I'd be saying that
-the upstairs socket circuit needs fixing
-some accessories may need changing
-a new circuit should be run for the immersion heater
I'd also be advising a new consumer unit is installed but that doesn't mean what is there isn't safe. It's just that modern units do lots more to protect people from the dangers of electricity.

Additionally the insulation resistance results need confirming (ideally by someone else) as you are relying on them to know whether the opportunity should be seized to get some new cables in. This is really the most important thing. If we believe those results I'd struggle to justify a rewire for safety reasons.

As I already wrote - it might be that your intended use of the property means there are insufficient points and a rewire would be a good idea for other reasons.
Thank you - in terms of estimated costs (or is it a case of how long is a piece of string) would you expect?
 
his test results actually portray the fixed wiring as being in excellent condition. (The insulation resistance tests for all circuits are all >200M.). If the overall condition is as bad as he says I'd be very surprised to get those readings.

I don't agree, the test results show that the wiring has good IR, this doesn't necessarily imply the wiring being in excellent condition.

You could have ununeclosed connector blocks everywhere and still get a good IR.

Even bare exposed conductors will show a good IR if theres a couple of mm free air between them.
 
I don't agree, the test results show that the wiring has good IR, this doesn't necessarily imply the wiring being in excellent condition.
All we have is "The installation is old and requires improvement" and little else to go on.
Maybe I over stated it but my point is if the issue is age related (as per the comment) then I'd usually expect some signs of deterioration in the IR results.
You could have ununeclosed connector blocks everywhere and still get a good IR.
Even bare exposed conductors will show a good IR if theres a couple of mm free air between them.
Sure but there's no C1's and no mention of anything suggesting any of this.
I do take your point that saying "excellent condition" is too strong, I was really trying to highlight a discrepancy.
 
Apologies if I haven’t been clear - this is for a house purchase which is in process. We know there is upgrading work to be done on the electrics - the electrician who carried out the EICR has been vague beyond ‘yes yes it has failed and needs a rewire’. We are paying this cost and not using it to negotiate with the seller. But are trying to understand if it is a true rewire or just upgrading. As it would change our approach on moving in straight away or getting the rewire done.
Appreciate all the responses given!
 

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