House rewire and compliance certification question

[Mattressback]

hi, asking as a customer not a tradesman

Having had a rewire and had some issues with the electrician , namely his working standards and the fact the job took twice as long as estimated. I paid a third up front before work started, he then coerced a not agreed upon second payment out of me a little later and now the electrician is now demanding the final third of the invoice before he will provide me with any certification .

Because there is an element of mistrust I’m worried he may take the remainder of the money and then I will be left chasing him forever after for the certificates. I’ve suggested he bring them and I transfer the money there and then in front of him but he has refused this offer and is insisting on final payment first.

Is this standard practice?

 

[Pete999]

hi, asking as a customer not a tradesman

Having had a rewire and had some issues with the electrician , namely his working standards and the fact the job took twice as long as estimated. I paid a third up front before work started, he then coerced a not agreed upon second payment out of me a little later and now the electrician is now demanding the final third of the invoice before he will provide me with any certification .

Because there is an element of mistrust I’m worried he may take the remainder of the money and then I will be left chasing him forever after for the certificates. I’ve suggested he bring them and I transfer the money there and then in front of him but he has refused this offer and is insisting on final payment first.

Is this standard practice?

Jobs not complete until the relevant certification has been submitted, he is trying it on, Make the bloke wait until you get the cert, and then seek advice as to the content of the cert from a competent Electrician, if you distrust him that much, far to much of this carp going on by dishonest tradespeople, and I use the tradesman title losely.

 

[Nebu1a]

Is this standard practice?

Cant reply for others but I dont ask for money up front for a rewire.
Halway through or after first fix Ill invoice for part payment and the rest on completion.
Trust has to go both ways.

 

[buzzlightyear]

I have had this out with a customer when completed the job for them
and them not paying on full bill ,he does not need to give you the cert and till Moines are paid in full, but how ever he must register the job within the 30days. until you pay him .

 

[Toneyz]

What is wrong with his working standards and why has it taken longer is he charging you if it took longer than he said has he come across unforeseen problems?
It is a good idea to have stage payments in arrear
Communication is always key between both parties if need be a formal contract/agreement in writing.
The final payment should be made when all certification has been issued or proof that notification has been done. As Pete's reply refers.
Is he a member of a self-certification scheme i.e NICEIC, Stroma, NAPIT etc, however, they will not get involved with financial disputes.

 

[Toneyz]

I have had this out with a customer when completed the job for them
and them not paying on full bill ,he does not need to give you the cert and till Moines are paid in full, but how ever he must register the job within the 30days. until you pay him .

The customer has contracted by written or verbal you to install an installation in compliance with BS7671 that includes Chapter 63 631.1BYB.

 

[buzzlightyear]

The customer has contracted by written or verbal you to install an installation in compliance with BS7671 that includes Chapter 63 631.1BYB.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt .
rang me scam ,answer for them ,has long you have register the work with in the 30days that fine ,you do not need to give him the test certs
if you are taken them to court .or disputing a bill.

 

[Toneyz]

You have not given me the electrical certificate I am not paying you.
You have not paid me I am not giving you the certificate.
I am taking you to the small claims court
compliance to BS7671 will probably be referred to and I don't think your scheme will back you up.

 

[buzzlightyear]

You have not given me the electrical certificate I am not paying you.
You have not paid me I am not giving you the certificate

on my invoices in bold red nor pay then no cert.

 

[buzzlightyear]

some customers try and get away with out paying ,I have one now .