How cables get from CU to first floor / loft

[Wulli3a]

quick question for you guys. If we say the house again is timer frame with plasterboard covering the frame, 2 floors ground & first. When the cables exit your CU in a domestic property and go into the wall cavity, how do they get to your loft. The ring for upstairs prob jumps into the wall cavity with the lighting radial cables for upstairs and come out of the top of the timber frame then run round the ring mains of upstairs. But how do the lighting cables reach the loft. Do i drill a hole diagonally up into wall cavity from below the floor then drill a hole into the cross noggin & run cable up the wall to the loft? Im new at this guys. Wall construction plus entry & exits from them im finding tough as dont do domestic.

 

[telectrix]

if it's new build, you go up behind the plasterboard or in studding. on rewires, usually find a route up airing cupboard or similar, or chase in.

 

[Octopus]

quick question for you guys. If we say the house again is timer frame with plasterboard covering the frame, 2 floors ground & first. When the cables exit your CU in a domestic property and go into the wall cavity, how do they get to your loft. The ring for upstairs prob jumps into the wall cavity with the lighting radial cables for upstairs and come out of the top of the timber frame then run round the ring mains of upstairs. But how do the lighting cables reach the loft. Do i drill a hole diagonally up into wall cavity from below the floor then drill a hole into the cross noggin & run cable up the wall to the loft? Im new at this guys. Wall construction plus entry & exits from them im finding tough as dont do domestic.

Ask a sparky to do it properly?

 

[telectrix]

think OP is a trainee, murdoch.

 

[Guest112]

As above you need a dedicated route for cables to top of property, in my house I went through my airing/boiler cupboard in surface trunking,

Just ensure if you are routing behind materials that you are within safe zones, I prefer a hidden surface trunking for future proofing

 

[Octopus]

think OP is a trainee, murdoch.

In which case his boss or mentor needs to step in an put the situation in order.

 

[Guest112]

In which case his boss or mentor needs to step in an put the situation in order.

The lads researching his electrica lwork in his spare time what more do you want?...

 

[Octopus]

The lads researching his electrica lwork in his spare time what more do you want?...

Yeh right..... like you believe that !!

 

[Wulli3a]

Thanks for all your input Murdoch it is greatly appreciated. Must be great to never have had to ask anyone a question

 

[Octopus]

Thanks for all your input Murdoch it is greatly appreciated. Must be great to never have had to ask anyone a question

I often ask questions..... almost from day 1 on here........... and still do.....

 

[shanky887614]

I often ask questions..... almost from day 1 on here........... and still do.....

your right there, its good there thinking and asking questions, i don't do my am2 till april but im bound to ask the odd silly now and again.

yes go up the wall cavity and straight up to loft

 

[Wulli3a]

Re Murdoch

I am actually an apprentice electrician with but i work in a large factory. I spend my days working with motors, inverters & plcs. All installs are surface mounted s/s trunking, conduit & cable tray. So domestic installs i have never done. The questions I am asking are just out of curiosity. Im sure i will cover them during my apprenticeship but just thought id ask. Thanks to everyone else for your advice. Every day is a school day

Much appreciated

 

[uksparks]

I think the opportunist is a trainee, murdoch.

I've corrected that for you.

 

[trev]

From the CU (because that designates a safe zone) straight up. Then from the ceiling/floor space up to the loft in another safe zone as designated by a socket or switch. Or up the inside of a cupboard in trunking.
Domestic is the arse end of the trade mate, stick to what you're doing now and worry no more about house bashing.

 

[Guest112]

From the CU (because that designates a safe zone) straight up. Then from the ceiling/floor space up to the loft in another safe zone as designated by a socket or switch. Or up the inside of a cupboard in trunking.
Domestic is the arse end of the trade mate, stick to what you're doing now and worry no more about house bashing.

Exactly, they let any moron have a go at house bashing these days, they call them domestic Idiots, you're in a better field where you are mate

atb

 

[Guest77]

I've corrected that for you.

I think that is harsh, he may well be telling the truth and should be helped if a genuine trainee, check to see if he is a Electrical Trainee first, if so then your comment is justified lol.

 

[telectrix]

his profile clearly states he's an apprentice.

 

[Octopus]

his profile clearly states he's an apprentice.

Anybody can state they are an apprentice!

 

[Wulli3a]

Thanks to everyone that was kind enough to help me out on the questions i asked. I actually am an apprentice industrial electrician for those few cynical members who posted. Domestic wiring is very simple it is just how cables access & leave wall cavities that interested me, thats all my questions were about. I will just ask the electrical engineers that i work with or my training officer from now on if i have any other domestic queries.

Peterdaniels & trev - thanks for the support guys. I think im defo heading in the right direction, im hoping to follow a few of my friends into the offshore wind farm sector in Britain & Germany. Money is incredible (100k). Once im qualified im going to sit my seimens s7 plc course & the relevant access safety courses & hopefully i will have enough contacts to get in.

Thanks again for your help guys

 

[andyelectric]

Wullie, there is a thing called Part P in England which has led to a Electrical Trainee category of short course trained 'domestic installers'.

Some idiots don't even look and see you are from Scotland and therefore think to themself 'Is he a proper trainee or a hated Electrical Trainee'. If you can put up with some robust views the site is actually quite good so I would advise you to stick around. There is even a trainee section where you should be able to get answers without abuse.

 

[SirKit Breaker]

your right there, its good there thinking and asking questions, i don't do my am2 till april but im bound to ask the odd silly now and again.

yes go up the wall cavity and straight up to loft

There are no SILLY questions, there are only questions that you don't know the answer to!

 

[telectrix]

just as there are no problems, only solutions. might have that as my signature since none of you believe my PHD etc.

 

[Marvo]

Good luck with your apprenticeship and further studies. I'm glad you got some constructive answers to your questions and apologies for the rough ride in the other replies, it appears the season of goodwill to all men is coming late this year.

 

[trev]

the season of goodwill to all men

When is that?

 

[Marvo]

I didn't get the memo but I'm suspecting it was canceled.

 

[johnsparks23]

Run the lighting cables up to the loft in a zone. I.e follow a switch, socket route.

 

[Octopus]

Run the lighting cables up to the loft in a zone. I.e follow a switch, socket route.

i.e. not in the cavity!

 

[Geordie Spark]

Wireless electricity is the future for Domestic Wiring.

Out from CU into transmitter & beamed from there into every room of the property with ne'er a chase, conduit or capping in sight.

 

[Diddy]

Wireless electricity is the future for Domestic Wiring.

Out from CU into transmitter & beamed from there into every room of the property with ne'er a chase, conduit or capping in sight.

Will you still need an RCD (Reduced current device for those who dont know). ?:santa1:

 

[HandySparks]

Will you still need an RCD (Reduced current device for those who dont know). ?:santa1:

No, but all occupants will be required to don a tinfoil hat on entering the premises to avoid frying their brains.

 

[Fin170]

Clip direct to the wall and through the nearest window frame, clip up the outside wall then back through one of the upstairs window frames. Paint cables to match

Traditional method

 

[7029 dave]

Well they have got to go ^ that way.