How many lights in a burger van......

[-Matt]

A coach building company I do work for built a posh "burger van" for a customer.

now I put 14 GU10 Downlights into this space which I and everyone thought was more than sufficient.

However the customer believes this is woefully insufficient, and wants an additional 25 fittings fitted! ie 49 GU10 fittings.....

At 400LM per bulb this is almost 20,000 lumens in a ----ing burger van!!

It will be 3 rows of lights, with each light 5 inches away from each other!!

Maybe I should fit halogen bulbs, and he will have some heat lamps


Do you guys agree this is excessive........?

 

[Charlie_]

What are the actual lamps you have installed?

 

[shaun1]

I'm guessing not much ceiling height if its in a van. Whats the beam angle on the downlights? They may be too narrow and so causing lots of shaddows in between / when the fixture is behind your head. I would have thought led battens/tubes would be better?

 

[buzzlightyear]

hay look a flying burger van ,LOL.

 

[Charlie_]

Also the commercial low profile slim fit led downlights would have been a better & cheaper option to GU10s

 

[telectrix]

seems like they want to do away with the griddle and cook the burgers on the downlights.

 

[ruston]

What kind of 'Van' is It . Is it a large static portocabin type with seating?

 

[Squid]

What kind of 'Van' is It . Is it a large static portocabin type with seating?

Selling tuna fish........

 

[ruston]

Selling tuna fish........

I told you not to show that tonight, now everyone will know our sideline

 

[Jim_e_Jib]

Selling tuna fish........

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You need to work harder, earn more, get a better class of lady in your life...

 

[Squid]

You need to work harder, earn more, get a better class of lady in your life...

I run 20 of them so zip up fatty or I'll cut your wife's hours......... ;o)))))

 

[MJPD29]

It sounds like the customer is ripping the ---- a little

 

[MJPD29]

Oops cant say ----, I'll go with ripping the pee

 

[ipf]

Selling tuna fish........

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What kind of 'Van' is It . Is it a large static pornokabin type with seating?

 

[buzzlightyear]

what the betting they put all the lighting in a wow ,turn them lights out .the last time I saw something like that was at a circuses ,who's the job for papa lazarou.

 

[Charlie_]

‘You’re my wife now daaaave’

 

[Jim_e_Jib]

I run 20 of them so zip up fatty or I'll cut your wife's hours......... ;o)))))

I'll have you know, I'm a lanky streak of pi$$ and my wife is a 20 stone cross dressing plumber named Nigel. Seems we both need a better class of lady in our lives...

 

[-Matt]

The current bulbs are Elite 4W 4K bulbs, which are 400lm with a 60D beam angle.
It was a customer request to have replaceable bulbs.

It is just a standard trailer "burger van" that is towed with a van.

The full Articulated trailer's we have done have had less lights!

Will take a photo of the finished article......

 

[-Matt]

The current bulbs are Elite 4W 4K bulbs, which are 400lm with a 60D beam angle.
It was a customer request to have replaceable bulbs.

It is just a standard trailer "burger van" that is towed with a van.

The full Articulated trailer's we have done have had less lights!

Will take a photo of the finished article......

 

[Charlie_]

Replace the ‘bulbs’
Go for at least 500 lm

 

[Squid]

Replace the ‘bulbs’
Go for at least Tulips

;o)))

 

[Charlie_]

Also are the fittings suitably ip rated..
1. For all the steam
2. For environmental health reasons ( depending on how strict the inspectors are)

 

[Wilko]

Replace the ‘bulbs’
Go for at least 500 lm

Agree - I use Enlite 5W and would recommend them.

 

[GBDamo]

You've fitted 14, are going to fit 25 more.

You charging the customer for 49. I like the cut of you're jib.

When the burger flipping grease monkey looks up to count them, make sure they're on.

 

[GBDamo]

stick a grid ceiling in and fill it with 600x600 panels.

"CAN YOU SEE YOU'RE BURGERS NOW? WELL CAN YOU?"

 

[-Matt]

Lotsa lights now..........

 

[DPG]

Flipping heck.

 

[Gary K]

Lotsa lights now..........

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Not very straight- but no one will notice,there will be too much glare.

 

[DPG]

I think it's the reflection on the back row that makes them look out of line.

 

[Gary K]

ou've fitted 14, are going to fit 25 more.

You charging the customer for 49. I like the cut of you're jib.

Even better, you only fitted 36

 

[Charlie_]

They don’t look like they are suitable for that environment

 

[freddo]

Don't worry if they are too bright now, the layer of grease that will build up will soon correct that.

 

[chrisdungan]

GU 10s ???? WTF go with LED strips

 

[EalingBadger]

A chap I know who became an electrician after several years as some kind of roving consultant chef for Waitrose insists that one cannot have too much light in a kitchen and at that it should be "daylight" / 6,000K bulbs as well.

 

[Charlie_]

The correct lighting levels can be achieved in many ways, this just happens to be in a, well, crap way

 

[freddo]

At least there is plenty of redundancy in the event of lamp failure...

 

[freddo]

With all the lights on, was it too bright?

 

[dmxtothemax]

Sounds like a man who likes high lumen levels
Leds are not best for high lumen work
The best would be hid lights
high in output but not high in heat

 

[freddo]

Almost exactly 1 year since the last reply! lol

 

[ipf]

Sorted 12 months back, I would have thought.

Beat me to it fred...…bloody sharp them foxes!