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Frankly I beleive that he has breached trading standards in that he has suggested you must have something that actually you do not need. This is fraudulent and he could be prosecuted for such fraud.
It would be an interesting case,

Although we can install things into what would be considered non compliant distribution boards by todays standards, and in many cases (including this one by the sounds of it) we should be doing so.
it could be argued that we are under no obligation to do any work that fails to comply with the letter of the latest standards.

the issue to me is how it is put to the customer. there is a difference between
I wont do that
and
i can't do that (with the inference that they would be breaking the law to do such)
 
Yes it would be. I think he mis-represented the truth with a view to gain a pecuniary advantage. If he would have said it is recommended or best practive etc, to supply SPD AFDD RCBO RCD ad nauseam that is different to presenting a scenario where he can't install the oven if you do not pay for the "necessary" work. It is fraud pure and simple.
 
So the old cooker is connected to a 40A breaker and the new one only needs a 20A breaker.?? Is this correct?

I'd consider getting another electrician in to quote for the job...
Maybe there is an electrician on the forum that lives near you (High Wycombe) that could give you a quote.
whereabouts in High Wycombe are you
 
An electrician has recently quoted to replace our old oven. He says that the new oven has different power requirements and he needs to replace the consumer unit to make this lower and avoid burning out our new oven within weeks! The cu was new in 2015 so I am concerned that it now needs replacing - this will cost double the cost of the oven... Help please!
Hi Jules im in wooburn green.. if you want to get in contact
 
Click on their name in the conversation and then click start conversation.
 

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Yes it would be. I think he mis-represented the truth with a view to gain a pecuniary advantage. If he would have said it is recommended or best practive etc, to supply SPD AFDD RCBO RCD ad nauseam that is different to presenting a scenario where he can't install the oven if you do not pay for the "necessary" work. It is fraud pure and simple.
Thanks for all your feedback on this. Glad my gut made me check this. So fatigued following cowboy builders cobbling our kitchen together and damaging it in the process that not sure I have the energy (or time now we're doing the rest DIY) to chase him down but agree he is behaving in a fraudulent manner. Makes me wonder whether he's even fully certified. It was a local recommendation!!
 
A little update...went round to see the job on wednesday morn, Dual RCD board, 40 amp mcb for cooker circuit, 6mm cable and new oven is 5.1Kw, absolutely no reason for a new board or mcb, An extra double socket is required in kitchen so the only thing that needs doing is upgrade Type AC Rcd to a Type A......The so called sparks was trying to pull a fast one and had no clue what he was talking about
 
A little update...went round to see the job on wednesday morn, Dual RCD board, 40 amp mcb for cooker circuit, 6mm cable and new oven is 5.1Kw, absolutely no reason for a new board or mcb, An extra double socket is required in kitchen so the only thing that needs doing is upgrade Type AC Rcd to a Type A......The so called sparks was trying to pull a fast one and had no clue what he was talking about

Nice one!
 

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