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I've bought all the power and hand tools, and am planning to start up on my own doing small electrical jobs for people as a sole trader with small steps, the problem I think i'm going to have is being able to sign off the work when i've done it, my friend at college is working for someone so could help, but i've heard you have to be registered to sign off the work, which I can't get, i've done the level 3 C&G years ago. If i'm doing jobs for someone would they pay building control or the council to sign it off? Is there any way I could get the work signed off, or would the smaller jobs that don't need to be notified be enough? I just think there's not going to be loads of small jobs - so not much money. I take it the gov invested the money in the needed courses to actually do the job. My mum had someone do work on her house, he never got it signed off, i'm guessing there's an option of just not signing off the work. I'm in the poole area.
If you're going to start doing electrical work for paying customers then you're going to have to swallow some of the overheads involved. A MFT is a must to be able to test and provide certificates for the work you've done. The correct insurance for the work you're doing is also a must.
Notification is different and separate to certification and the easiest way is to be with a scheme. You could contact your local BC office and ask what their system and charges are for non registered workers wanting to notify work. If you are not going to do much notifiable work it may not be worth the scheme membership fees and you could just avoid doing notifiable work ?
If you're going to start doing electrical work for paying customers then you're going to have to swallow some of the overheads involved. A MFT is a must to be able to test and provide certificates for the work you've done. The correct insurance for the work you're doing is also a must.
Notification is different and separate to certification and the easiest way is to be with a scheme. You could contact your local BC office and ask what their system and charges are for non registered workers wanting to notify work. If you are not going to do much notifiable work it may not be worth the scheme membership fees and you could just avoid doing notifiable work ?
Yh I've looked at quotes for public liability insurance and it's like £100 which is fine but I want to earn money before paying out.
Would there be much non notifiable work? I'm thinking I won't really get much work if I do that. My plan is to go there check what needs to be done then just ask online if I would need to notify it and plan doing it.
I don't have the 2391 by the way. And stroma requires 2 years of experience, could probably bs that.
What worries me most is messing it up and being liable - I did put an ad on gumtree and had some guy call me saying I could do work on his house for free, but i'd still be liable wouldn't I? I'm just thinking if I could get my friend or someone from his company to check it over before it's switched on i'd be fine. Have heard of people getting someone to check their work is fine, then sign it off themselves. Would give me confidence I'm not going to be sued.
Yes if it you mess up you would be liable. If you are advertising as competent to do the work you should be. If you are competent you shouldn't need anyone to check over your work. Experience is the key to competence and, by the sounds of it, more experience is what you need before starting out on this venture.
No idea if there would be much notifiable work or not, how would you be advertising yourself ? Make yourself familiar with the scope of part P notifiable work would be the first step.
Yes if it you mess up you would be liable. If you are advertising as competent to do the work you should be. If you are competent you shouldn't need anyone to check over your work. Experience is the key to competence and, by the sounds of it, more experience is what you need before starting out on this venture.
No idea if there would be much notifiable work or not, how would you be advertising yourself ? Make yourself familiar with the scope of part P notifiable work would be the first step.
Well I did put an ad up on gumtree in poole looking to work as a mate, I had someone call me saying could I work on his house for free and I was going to meet today but he never replied strangely, probably because he felt there was risk. I'm not saying I'm competent, I just thought if he asked me it would be at his own risk - and mine. It all depends if they want to sue you if you mess it, if it was something small i'd probably be fine. Only knows my name is steve, my mum had a guy work on her house, never signed it off and was fine, also think someone messed up something and she didn't do anything - wouldn't do a job on a nice expensive home.
When you say if things get messed up, have you considered what that might be?
It might be your installation doesn’t work, but it could cause a fire or injury someone. If you are serious about working as an electrician, you should get some more training and or work for someone or a company, where you might get both.
Can’t really see you doing much without any test kit and experience of using it. I’m currently doing minor domestic work but would say that 80% requires a cert of some sort. Even replacing say like for like a quick Zs check is pretty handy to confirm earthing.
The first £1000 you earn doesn't have to be declared, by the time i've earnt this from smaller jobs I can step up a bit and take on the harder stuff. If u have liability insurance then really your covered. It's just if I keep claiming on the liability insurance my quotes are bound to skyrocket.
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Isn't being self employed different to running a business as you wouldn't have to pay employees? The only expenses really are insurance, tools, registering with a scheme, materials. Ideally I would like to work as a mate, but it all depends if I can get that - nobody has replied to my gumtree ad.
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