Price check please, NI sparks in particular.

[Phil Thompson]

Well it didn't as they decided against it for now. I only just got my initial verification passed on Friday there. Start the periodic this Friday. So if they require it later I hopefully should be able to do myself.

 

[bigspark17]

Unless its diferent in NI, you dont need to do 2395 to be able to do eicr just competant & have correct insurance in place.
You should be doing an eicr pre doing all this work not after. & issuing a new EIC refrenced to the eicr for any new work. What are you doing regarding part p notification?
Do you work for yourself or is this a "on the side job"?

 

[Phil Thompson]

No part P or domestic installer schemes in NI.

 

[MJPD29]

I also live in NI and I have suffered the same fate doing a lot of work for someone with several added extras that they must imagine are done for free or I magically pulled them from between my cheeks in an hour. Price is defiantly fair and extras have been done cheap for them, I'd say mark up materials quite a bit on itemized bill and if not small claims court. Do people realise that you have to make a living also

 

[Phil Thompson]

Unless its diferent in NI, you dont need to do 2395 to be able to do eicr just competant & have correct insurance in place.
You should be doing an eicr pre doing all this work not after. & issuing a new EIC refrenced to the eicr for any new work. What are you doing regarding part p notification?
Do you work for yourself or is this a "on the side job"?

Double checked this today and as far as I am able to ascertain via college lecturer and online, there is no LABC notification to be completed in NI.

As for the EICR, 1 would be issued, and if and codes those would be addressed and then a new eicr given with no codes on it. Or at least no C1&2 codes on it.

EIC is for new installations or new circuits only as far as I've been instructed anyways.

 

[bigspark17]

No you defo need to do an EIC for a cu change!

 

[Risteard]

As for the EICR, 1 would be issued, and if and codes those would be addressed and then a new eicr given with no codes on it. Or at least no C1&2 codes on it.

EIC is for new installations or new circuits only as far as I've been instructed anyways.

An Electrical Installation Certificate is for any new electrical installation work. This isn't necessarily an entire electrical installation or new circuits, it can be minor works (although a Minor Electrical Installation Works Certificate might be more appropriate for a single circuit modified). I would issue an EIC for remedial works carried out presuming that multiple circuits were involved in the remedial works. I certainly wouldn't reissue an EICR with codes removed - the EICR they have will be one based on what I found at the time of the inspection. An EIC certifying remedial works should be all that is needed.

 

[Phil Thompson]

I will speak to the lecturer again and clarify, but he definitely stated EIC for new installations or new circuits and EICR for a board change.

As you are reporting on the condition of the installation, coding for any issues and if remedied then rectifying and reissue a clear EICR without any codes.

That was what I was also led to believe by the guy who was going to do the EICR initially, and he just does inspection & testing on a daily basis, hasn't worked the tools in years, he does it for a firm that does all the colleges in the country. Though he has pulled the use of escos between meter and CCU, stating that once the main isolator is off those are still live.

That's how he does any for the fella I used to work to before starting on my own.

But will definitely check it out further.

 

[Flanders]

As others have said you need to issue an eic for a consumer change you can not put circuit into service if there are issues with them , so for example
There is a cable hanging out of wall with live conducters exposed, you change the consumer unit and then you have effectively made that unsafe cable live and created the danger ,
You should of done a eicr first or a least some basic inspection like check bonding ,insulation resistance , cpc continuity and any damaged accessories before you change the consumer unit

 

[Risteard]

As you are reporting on the condition of the installation, coding for any issues and if remedied then rectifying and reissue a clear EICR without any codes.

This is where the issue is. If you have rectified an issue then you need to certify the work you have done (i.e. the remedial work). A Report is just that - a report on the condition of the installation and therefore will not certify the work that you have done and therefore is not the correct document for that.

So if I had an EICR from a periodic inspection of an installation (whether produced by me or someone else) and I was then asked to carry out the remedial works I would issue a certificate for the remedial works. I would not reissue an EICR with the codes removed. The certificate will confirm that the remedial works comply with BS7671 (and therefore show that these parts of the installation are now safe).