RCD required?

[Davisss]

Hi guys,
Just a quick query here. I have just gone into a property and done a EICR. Its a rewireable fuseboard with no rcd protection on any circuits. The main house ring circuit has an occurence with a spur off a spur. Easy to rectify i know but as i am going to to re-feeding the sockets, is there any requirement for me to protect the circuit with an RCD?

Many thanks in anticipation,
Dave

 

[Octopus]

Surely if you are rewriting part of the socket circuit and you plan on burying the cable a rcd is a must

 

[Pete999]

Rewriting??? Murdoch sort your fingers out mate

 

[Meggerman]

Hi guys,
Just a quick query here. I have just gone into a property and done a EICR. Its a rewireable fuseboard with no rcd protection on any circuits. The main house ring circuit has an occurence with a spur off a spur. Easy to rectify i know but as i am going to to re-feeding the sockets, is there any requirement for me to protect the circuit with an RCD?

Many thanks in anticipation,
Dave

Just from what you have said, C2 for no RCD for socket outlets, C2 for multiple spurs - overload risk, C3 for No RCD for cables concealed <50mm in walls. Quote for new CU and rectify ring spurs. Nice little remedial for you.

 

[Plonker 3]

Just from what you have said, C2 for no RCD for socket outlets, C2 for multiple spurs - overload risk, C3 for No RCD for cables concealed <50mm in walls. Quote for new CU and rectify ring spurs. Nice little remedial for you.

why is a new CU required?

he is merely asking if any work he carries out needs RCD/RCBO protection.

Oh and sockets without RCD/RCBO protection is a C3, if it complied when installed, unless they can be used outdoors.

 

[Redvanman]

why is a new CU required?

he is merely asking if any work he carries out needs RCD/RCBO protection.

Oh and sockets without RCD/RCBO protection is a C3, if it complied when installed, unless they can be used outdoors.

Surely any ground floor socket could be used for outside therefore C2 for me

 

[Pete999]

Same for upstairs sockets really

 

[camerabloke]

what if they live in a block of flats on the top floor?

 

[Pete999]

Long leads no worries

 

[Plonker 3]

Why is this being discussed? The of isn't asking about the coding. yes I know I mentioned it but only in reply to someone else.

 

[Knobhead]

why is a new CU required?

he is merely asking if any work he carries out needs RCD/RCBO protection.

Oh and sockets without RCD/RCBO protection is a C3, if it complied when installed, unless they can be used outdoors.

Just from what you have said, C2 for no RCD for socket outlets, C2 for multiple spurs - overload risk, C3 for No RCD for cables concealed <50mm in walls. Quote for new CU and rectify ring spurs. Nice little remedial for you.

Rephrase that to “nice little earner for you.”

 

[Plonker 3]

It seems to be meggermans standard response to every post about doing a job in a house without RCD protection.

 

[camerabloke]

that and using violence as stated in an earlier thread

 

[Meggerman]

Rephrase that to “nice little earner for you.”

I don't know what his pricing structure is Tony, however I am sure he has it worked out.

 

[Meggerman]

It seems to be meggermans standard response to every post about doing a job in a house without RCD protection.

Ok, in complete contrast to your make do and mend philosophy, which then will get done by someone else later and they can pay again. Also as Inspector it is my discretion what I code non-compliances. Maybe you worth noting it would be reasonable to expect that any downstairs socket outlet could be used to supply equipment outside.

 

[Plonker 3]

Ok, in complete contrast to your make do and mend philosophy, which then will get done by someone else later and they can pay again. Also as Inspector it is my discretion what I code non-compliances. Maybe you worth noting it would be reasonable to expect that any downstairs socket outlet could be used to supply equipment outside.

Make do and mend yes, they are asking to repair a small part of the installation not change i all completely, besides installing a new DB could lead to a whole load of problems which would cost the customer even more money that they didn't need to spend.

Yes the coding is down the inspector, as I said no question was asked about coding.

Again I pointed out if the sockets could be used outdoors, please read the whole reply before replying as it just makes you look ignorant and choosing what you want too read.

 

[Pete999]

Getting nasty watch it boys I can see a ban coming:50:

 

[Plonker 3]

Getting nasty watch it boys I can see a ban coming:50:

what for?

no one is being aggressive or abusive to anyone!!

 

[Meggerman]

Make do and mend yes, they are asking to repair a small part of the installation not change i all completely, besides installing a new DB could lead to a whole load of problems which would cost the customer even more money that they didn't need to spend.

Yes the coding is down the inspector, as I said no question was asked about coding.

Again I pointed out if the sockets could be used outdoors, please read the whole reply before replying as it just makes you look ignorant and choosing what you want too read.[/QUOTE

I did read you post. Oh and sockets without RCD/RCBO protection is a C3, if it complied when installed, unless they can be used outdoors. . I am saying they can all be used outdoors.
Also, the guy has just carried out an EICR, this is the best time to now carry out DB replacement as he has inspected and tested installation so knows what faults are present. Why would that lead to problems?

 

[Meggerman]

Getting nasty watch it boys I can see a ban coming:50:

We can have a discussion can't we??