The point of being qualified?

[Dustydazzler]

Dodgy Dave and his DIY fuse box changes and Roger the Rogue builders house Re-wires , keep me in work and busy 4-5 days per week putting their SH!T work right

Infact I would have hardly any work if it wasn't for people regularly doing SH!T wiring

So I DO NOT want the SH!T work to stop , in fact the more SH!T work that goes on the busier I get

So to all the dodgy builders and rough arse sparks out there PLEASE keep throwing in rubbish wiring so I can keep paying my mortgage

 

[Mike Johnson]

I advise everyone to read the "Peter Principle" at least once, if explains everything about incompetence in trades people and those supposedly in charge.

 

[DoubleInsulated]

That fire alarm I reported to the building inspector.... big commercial building (garden centre). He did the most HORRIFIC install I have ever seen.

No design, no testing, huge voids in the sounder coverage, appalling installation practices... but it took 7 months for him to realise that when you did trigger the fire alarm....

.....Nothing happened. No sounders or beacons had been connected.

Took him nearly 2 weeks and 5 men to try and sort it out (and it's still not right). I walked away.

Trouble is, he would immediately point the finger at you if he ever got caught.

Anyway.... old news. Move on.

 

[GBDamo]

My take,

It's similar to the industrial action of the 70's leading to the gutting of the UKs heavy industry.

Knowledgeable people who thought themselves indispensable make life ever more difficult, tying people up in regulation and specification, and become intransigent and belligerent.

Many public bodies have pensioned off these individuals and replaced them with more pliant graduates who are prepared to be more "pragmatic".

Also, where the majority of work was done in house, most is now contracted out.

The problem is now is these green graduates are largely clueless and easily flanneled by smooth talking contractors.

Hence we now get all manner of rubbish installed in public buildings that use to be the gold standard.

Unfortunately, with the advent of RCDs, the shiteness of these jobs is highly unlikely to raise concerns as very few people are electrocuted.

 

[OnlQQker]

 

[Lister1987]

Part of the issue is your shouting in the wrong ears. Fire regulatory reform order compliance Is the responsibility of the local fire and rescue service authority, not council, not LABC and not CIEH/HSE.

Shout in the right ears and you'll get somewhere.

 

[timhoward]

Part of the issue is your shouting in the wrong ears. Fire regulatory reform order compliance Is the responsibility of the local fire and rescue service authority, not council, not LABC and not CIEH/HSE.

Shout in the right ears and you'll get somewhere.

Agree. I have managed to get the local station officer at the fire brigade interested in a couple of truly appalling fire alarms installations before now and follow up has occurred. Anywhere where people sleep get's their ears pricking up very quickly.

 

[DoubleInsulated]

Tried the local fire officer. He directed me to the building inspector ?
Probably because they were building an extension at the time

 

[Vortigern]

Accepted this is the norm SNAFU. Yet I choose to be part of the solution not part of the problem. To achieve this I keep abreast and qualified in best practices and conform to regs/statute. At least I know that one house or office at a time I am doing work that is kosher. As to the rogues, I have long given up decrying the state of some wiring I just get on with it. I don't even bother to tell the client, except in the sparsest terms, what is wrong with the installation, just what needs to be done.

 

[smash_]

Tell the client, I’m sure if they knew that the system wasn’t fit for purpose they’d do something.
Its them paying for it and putting trust in the people who install it.