Whole house rewire questions

[jelliott]

For interest. Here are my revised designs. I'm going to leave the kitchen off for now. I want to buy a second hand kitchen, then do the electrics based on what I get.

 

[James]

You realy need to be discussing this with your electrician.

I would not normally expect anything other than a 1 bedroom flat to be wired using only 4 circuits, and even then, it would be an unusually small amount.

the lighting circuits in 3 core are of an unusual design looping 3 core through everything.
although it would work.

 

[jelliott]

You realy need to be discussing this with your electrician.

I would not normally expect anything other than a 1 bedroom flat to be wired using only 4 circuits, and even then, it would be an unusually small amount.

the lighting circuits in 3 core are of an unusual design looping 3 core through everything.
although it would work.

Hello, there are more than 4 circuits,

Not shown are the kitchen circuits, heating circuits, cooker circuit, hob circuit. I have additional for expansion too. Our house is fairly small.

For the kitchen, I was thinking of taking in the suggestion of separating the appliances from the sockets on 4mm radials. Until I know what is going in the kitchen, it is hard to plan.

 

[brianmoooore]

Any design that incorporates 4 pole junction boxes is a fail!

 

[jelliott]

Any design that incorporates 4 pole junction boxes is a fail!

Tough crowd. I assume you mean to favour the Wago type connection boxes.

 

[brianmoooore]

Tough crowd. I assume you mean to favour the Wago type connection boxes.

No, any joint box in a new design is a failure. Joint boxes are for modifications to existing wiring and connecting up the odd imported lamp fitting.
Wiring lights as in your diagram went out of fashion in the '60s.

 

[jelliott]

No, any joint box in a new design is a failure. Joint boxes are for modifications to existing wiring and connecting up the odd imported lamp fitting.
Wiring lights as in your diagram went out of fashion in the '60s.

Seems like overkill to me. The main reason I have Junction boxes is to leave those items disconnected and hook them up at a later date. I want to get the lighting done & the house plastered. I can also go back and easily fit fuses etc if the manufacturers instructions say they are required. It's the flexibility of not needing to wire everything first time round.

 

[James]

Your electrician is the one that needs to approve the design, at the end of the day although we all have put in some valuable advice, it is not appropriate for any of us to design a house re wire for you over the internet.
he/she will answer all these questions and point out wiring routes and methods with a 1hour site walk and talk.

I understand you are doing as much as you can to keep the costs down but do not underestimate the importance of getting the right design and specifications sorted early on, failures at this stage can have safety implications later that could cost a fortune to rectify.

 

[jelliott]

Your electrician is the one that needs to approve the design, at the end of the day although we all have put in some valuable advice, it is not appropriate for any of us to design a house re wire for you over the internet.
he/she will answer all these questions and point out wiring routes and methods with a 1hour site walk and talk.

I understand you are doing as much as you can to keep the costs down but do not underestimate the importance of getting the right design and specifications sorted early on, failures at this stage can have safety implications later that could cost a fortune to rectify.

Hello,

Yes, I am getting an electrician for consultancy. I'm preparing for that, so i have as few questions to answer as possible.

 

[mainline]

Seems like overkill to me. The main reason I have Junction boxes is to leave those items disconnected and hook them up at a later date. I want to get the lighting done & the house plastered. I can also go back and easily fit fuses etc if the manufacturers instructions say they are required. It's the flexibility of not needing to wire everything first time round.

The only junction connections should be at the fittings, all you're doing is adding more joints to go wrong in the future.

You should be able to isolate any circuit /part of a circuit not using them.

Let your sparky plan it with you.