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  1. Starjack
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    Starjack Dont hate my success, strive to match it. Electrician's Arms

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    So is it possible to be a fast-food worker or an office worker and then go on a 5 week course and come out the other end proclaiming to be an electrician.
    In addition to that should you be allowed to do a 5 week course and immediately go self employed.
    Is it safe to do a 5 week course then immediately be let loose on the public.

    In my opinion if you insist on doing a 5 week course it should be compulsory to work for a company under a competent electrician for at least 3-5 years before becoming self employed.

    5 weeks!!! It took me longer than that to learn to swim.
     
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  2. sparksburnout
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    So how is this compulsory employment going to work then? Are firms going to be forced to take people on who are seeking to become electricians?
     
  3. Ian1981
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    The fact that the term ‘electrician ‘ is not a recognised licensed profession with recognised licensed qualifications means that anyone who’s done some kind of short course can call themselves one I’m afraid.
    It does kinda take the **** when you’ve done a 4 year apprenticeship and added qualifications such as BS7671 and inspection and testing and worked hard to be able to call yourself an electrician.
    Nothing against people coming into the trade without an apprenticeship, but short courses are ridiculous.
     
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  4. ruston
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    Maybe a bit like the old YTS lol. We had loads of them and most of them got kept on .
     
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  5. spud1
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    They're just gonna make the rest of us look good!
     
  6. ruston
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    Yes you could probably be right. We got a lot of good lads out of training programme that would not otherwise of had the opportunity to get an apprenticeship.
    There is a lot of untapped talent out there .
    One of our lads won the Duke of Edinburgh Award.
     
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    Last edited: Feb 6, 2019
  7. Starjack
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    How do you get a job as the Duke of Edinburgh
     
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  8. ruston
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    Marry the Queen.
     
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  9. ipf
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    Aye..….but some of these 5WW's are nearly as old as us, rus!!;)
     
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  10. ruston
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    Yes you are right . I still see the one that won the award . He trained in the machine shop and ended up an engineer
    He is and was badly disabled when he started with us. He had a heart like lion.
     
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  11. spinlondon
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    You don’t need to do any course at all to be an electrician.
    At least if they do a 5 week course and obtain some qualification, they’ll be qualified.
     
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  12. essex
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    Any industry that allows people to trade under schemes like the NICEIC after a five week course in people’s homes but those same people Would not be allowed on a building site doing the same job is a broken industry.
     
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  13. spinlondon
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    spinlondon Forum Mentor

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    Would you say, that it’s more or less broken now, than before, when you didn’t need to do any course or have any qualifications and MFT was the name of a kitchen supplier?
     
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  14. essex
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    essex Forum Mentor

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    I cannot say. Always needed qualifications as long as I have been sparking.
     
  15. ipf
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    At least you didn't get loads of people masquerading as 'qualified' with various organisations offering them the chance to.....and labelling them as such.
     
  16. anthonybragg
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    anthonybragg Electrician's Arms

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    The problem is the lack of on-site experience. Overcoming on-site problems especially in existing installations.
     
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