Building control confusion!!!

[Bsharp]

Had a lovely conversation/argument with building control this morning, the scenario is this,
Completed job (4 flat rewire) EIC’s sent to client as normal, building control notification done via NICEIC portal, all good (you’d hope)
Then received email from client (the architect) to inform me that the CERTS would not suffice as I quote “were not registered with building control” I contacted building control who informed me that all CERTIFICATES must be registered with building control within 30days of job completion, I attempted to explain that he meant building control (himself) must be notified of any works that have been carried out within 30days of completion and that EIC certificates (or any electrical certificates for that matter) are for myself to retain a copy and the client to receive a copy. This is below the response.


QUOTE.
“Although ——- is a registered competent electrician, under Part P it’s is a requirement that the electrical certificates are registered (in this case with NICEIC) within 30 days of the completion date with a Building Control compliance certificate issued by NICEIC with a copy forwarded to Building Control, I believe this is also a requirement by NICEIC as part of their rules. Please find below extract from Part P for reference.
Although ———- has confirmed over the phone that he has notified the certificates with Building Control this is not the case. I’ve just spoken to NICEIC where ———- has notified the certificate via the NICEIC portal this morning the notification is yet to reach us and will only reach from mid-night tonight.”
END QUOTE


As far as I was aware we don’t register certificates with anybody we simply supply certs and then certify our own work as compliant. I’m fed up if building control confusing EIC and building control notification. Has any one else had issues with them??

 

[Bob Geldoff1234]

Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like you issued a EIC to the client but within the 30 days after dating the EIC you haven't notified Part P and only did it on the last day which according to Building Control will make the notification out of the 30 days notice? Is that correct?

 

[Bsharp]

No cert issued on 25th, building control notification sent on 16th.

 

[Deleted account]

I’m confused.

what date did you do the final testing on job and issue eic.?

what date did you actually notify niceic?

what date did you tell niceic works where completed?

thanks

 

[timhoward]

I'm wondering - were BC already involved and the electrical work formed part of a larger job? For example, was it conversion into 4 flats?
If so the job specification for the client sometimes says "EIC to be supplied upon completion", and in these circumstances it can be that BC want it on file themselves.
I had one like this which was a loft conversion and the building inspector actually said "don't notify it via your scheme, I need the certificate myself."

 

[SparkySy]

I have had the same as @timhoward, full planning permission granted for a huge extension, the cert went directly to the customer and building control. No need to notify it online as it was covered under the full planning application.
I notify my jobs within 30 days of me issuing the cert as that is when I class the job as finished. Never had any problems with BC or Stroma/ Napit!

 

[Darkwood]

This is why the world is screwed, paper pushers trying to stamp authority where the quality and safety of the work meets every standard. We live to satisfy the quango jobsworth for their lack of competence in a world of competence.

 

[hasel5]

Box tickers the lot of them Just ignore them you issued the Cert and done the building control bit

If a couple of days late what's the big deal never heard of anyone getting removed or fined for this.

All the CPS just want your money every year

Thats my Take on it tin hat on

 

[Midwest]

Not sure whats being asked here, but.

When I had my business, I would send completed EIC to client, and use the Schemes software to notify BC (i.e. didn't send BC a cert).

Having just converted my garage, sparks sent me the certs, and notified BC for me. However, BC wanted copies of EIC, and gas cert, before they would supply me with a their Completion of Works Certificate.

 

[Mike Johnson]

It's all a job creation scheme, we will soon get as bad as the rest of European where you can't be sacked no matter how incompetent you are.