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Dillb said:
Whilst I am not saying I agree with the Glenn about the OP of this thread, is it right that people can come on here, asking professional people trying to make a living ridiculous questions that even most apprentices would know the answer too? There is a very good reason why the DIY board was created.
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I agree with what you are saying , and this is a ridiculous question , I personally would feel ashamed of myself if I couldn't resolve such an issue myself **unnecessary, removed**
 
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Interesting thread which can be viewed in two ways.
1. It's an electrical forum and therefore there is no such thing as a stupid question,we all have to start somewhere.
2.Anyone selling their services to the general public should be able to fathom out a simple RCD testing issue.

Take your choice but each are equally valid points of view IMHO.
 
spark 68 said:
In addition to Howards post above ^^^^ Have you tested the ELI prior to fitting the RCD ?, because if the earth loop is high resistance/non-existent, the tester will inhibit the test if the CPC rises above a pre-set touch voltage, usually set @ 50V, some testers allow this to be set @ 25V, so check this too.
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What, in your opinion, would be the top limit for the ELFI need to be, to cause the tester not performing the test?
I'm thinking along the lines of how would you test an RCD on a TT installation.
 
I’ve questioned the OP’s competence before. The fact he’s going in to unsuspecting peoples homes makes my blood run cold.

If any of you care to check on his history on here you will see and agree with Glenn.

Nice fella or not, he’s a liability.
 
Archy Styrigg said:
What, in your opinion, would be the top limit for the ELFI need to be, to cause the tester not performing the test?
I'm thinking along the lines of how would you test an RCD on a TT installation.
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I was thinking on the lines of the CPC of the circuit in question being open circuit altogether Archie, or certainly higher than the 1667 ohms (assuming 30mA RCD and a Ut of 50V) before the meter inhibits the test @ X1, about 3.4 k ohms would inhibit the test at 1/2 Idn, also some meters allow Ut to be set @ 25V.

Sometimes it is easy to miss the obvious, especially if you get into a "one track" thought process.
 
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Tony said:
I’ve questioned the OP’s competence before. The fact he’s going in to unsuspecting peoples homes makes my blood run cold.

If any of you care to check on his history on here you will see and agree with Glenn.

Nice fella or not, he’s a liability.
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You are wrong Tony.

I am not a liabilty. I have the balls to ask the questions when many do not. My customers rate me highly and ask me back because I am a stickler for getting it right and doing a good job. My first priority is to do a good, safe job which adheres to the regs, second priority to enjoy it, third priority to make some money.

There are many silly questions asked by many members, you and Glenn then scare them off because you are both unpleasant people, they then do not post any more, hench I'm in the limelight because I stay. The ones that you have scared off then have noone to ask and may become dangerous or simply not progress. The electrician I sometimes work with has asked me to work full time with him in his fire alarm business as he says I do a much better job than other employees he has had, but I am interested in domestics.

You and Glenn should take a leaf out of MDF's book, he can see both sides. I would very much like to work alongside someone like MDF for a year or 2, I would then progress much faster but in the meantime the limited work (single phase) I carry out is safe and legal.

You are more than welcome to come and meet me rather than hiding behind a computer screen and I'll take you out on a few jobs if you like and then I'll take your comments seriously. Until then your blood can boil as much as it likes.

ps.. Bit disappointed I allowed myself to get drawn in.. grrrr
 
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happyhippydad said:
You are wrong Tony.

I am not a liabilty. I have the balls to ask the questions when many do not. My customers rate me highly and ask me back because I am a stickler for getting it right and doing a good job. My first priority is to do a good, safe job which adheres to the regs, second priority to enjoy it, third priority to make some money.

There are many silly questions asked by many members, you and Glenn then scare them off because you are both unpleasant people, they then do not post any more, hench I'm in the limelight because I stay. The ones that you have scared off then have noone to ask and may become dangerous or simply not progress. The electrician I sometimes work with has asked me to work full time with him in his fire alarm business as he says I do a much better job than other employees he has had, but I am interested in domestics.

You and Glenn should take a leaf out of MDF's book, he can see both sides. I would very much like to work alongside someone like MDF for a year or 2, I would then progress much faster but in the meantime the limited work (single phase) I carry out is safe and legal.

You are more than welcome to come and meet me rather than hiding behind a computer screen and I'll take you out on a few jobs if you like and then I'll take your comments seriously. Until then your blood can boil as much as it likes.

ps.. Bit disappointed I allowed myself to get drawn in.. grrrr
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I reckon if I worked with "MDF" for a year I would become a lot better too....... at carpentry :)
 
Okay, here's how it's going to work.

When a thread descends into handbag swinging and general bickering I'm going to go back through the thread and identify the posts that started it and the posts that caused it to escalate. The members responsible for those posts will be dealt with accordingly.

If you feel someone is out of their depth or doing something dangerous you're welcome to say, but, and this is a big 'BUT', keep it civilised and keep it polite. Insinuating you'd 'feel like a dick' if you'd asked this question is not acceptable. Calling them an 'idiot' is not acceptable. There's also lots of threads about the deskilling of the industry so keep general discussions about domestic installers or Electrical Trainee's in those threads.

Iamelectric, you need to stop addressing members directly with personal comments. If your 'bait' contributes to an already contentious thread going South then you'll get banned for trolling.

My best advice to one and all is read my signature and follow the advice in it.
 
Marvo said:
Okay, here's how it's going to work.

When a thread descends into handbag swinging and general bickering I'm going to go back through the thread and identify the posts that started it and the posts that caused it to escalate. The members responsible for those posts will be dealt with accordingly.

If you feel someone is out of their depth or doing something dangerous you're welcome to say, but, and this is a big 'BUT', keep it civilised and keep it polite. Insinuating you'd 'feel like a dick' if you'd asked this question is not acceptable. Calling them an 'idiot' is not acceptable. There's also lots of threads about the deskilling of the industry so keep general discussions about domestic installers or Electrical Trainee's in those threads.

Iamelectric, you need to stop addressing members directly with personal comments. If your 'bait' contributes to an already contentious thread going South then you'll get banned for trolling.

My best advice to one and all is read my signature and follow the advice in it.
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My apologies Marvo, I have added to the above by getting drawn in and calling 2 members 'unpleasant' which I regret.
 
Not a particularly helpful post but I have had my Metrel fail to test an RCD before, I seem to remember there were no error signs up and was stumped for while, the bad bit about this post is that I cannot remember why it was not testing:sad:. It may have been to do with failing to get contact with the probes, but I do not think it was to do with the circuit. (though I have had it fail to test when the EFLI is too high on a TT).
 
MDJ said:
Thats not true, Glenn thinks the OP should Shadow a spark for a while to get more experience. Personally I really like Hippy he is a great fella, but glenn is right and Hippy would probably agree, nice fella.
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yep..

Trust me guys...thats all it is..

it isn`t a vendetta against Happyhippydad....(see i even got his name right)...its just that some of this from him is base.

Look Hippy....if you were in the north ...round here i would have you along for a few days as & when .....

there....said it now.
 
happyhippydad said:
You are wrong Tony.

I am not a liabilty. I have the balls to ask the questions when many do not. My customers rate me highly and ask me back because I am a stickler for getting it right and doing a good job. My first priority is to do a good, safe job which adheres to the regs, second priority to enjoy it, third priority to make some money.

There are many silly questions asked by many members, you and Glenn then scare them off because you are both unpleasant people, they then do not post any more, hench I'm in the limelight because I stay. The ones that you have scared off then have noone to ask and may become dangerous or simply not progress. The electrician I sometimes work with has asked me to work full time with him in his fire alarm business as he says I do a much better job than other employees he has had, but I am interested in domestics.

You and Glenn should take a leaf out of MDF's book, he can see both sides. I would very much like to work alongside someone like MDF for a year or 2, I would then progress much faster but in the meantime the limited work (single phase) I carry out is safe and legal.

You are more than welcome to come and meet me rather than hiding behind a computer screen and I'll take you out on a few jobs if you like and then I'll take your comments seriously. Until then your blood can boil as much as it likes.

ps.. Bit disappointed I allowed myself to get drawn in.. grrrr
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If I get busy M8 I will let you know, maybe in the summer, we will see.
 
iamelectric said:
haha you getting a bit annoyed their GLENNSPARK mate , dont worry am sure a few of your trolls sorry buddies will be along to back you up anytime now
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Another silly post Iam, I thought you had got that nonsence out of your system and was back posting in a positive manner, still you have your own Troll in meggar man to back you up now.
 
wirepuller said:
[/B]This is a thread about an RCD not testing out FFS,not gang warfare.
I despair.
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yes it is, and I was not in anyway rude or nasty to Steve with his thread at all, then Iam and Meggar man started ruining the thread with nasty silly comments, down here if a man insults another then he should be prepared to answer for it, the fact marvo removed the posts before it got out of hand is one reason the threads is missing the bits posted which started this reaction, I edited my thread before hoping anyone saw it, you have just added to the temperature by posting it, no biggie I don't mind, they not I, they have ruined the thread by trolling not I, read it again, and remove your post if you want things to chill lol
 
well mike...

i got the jist that it was something about me...from what i could gather he called me a name.....lol...

shame it wasn`t left on so i could view it when i got back home yesterday evening....lol...
 
GLENNSPARK said:
well mike...

i got the jist that it was something about me...from what i could gather he called me a name.....lol...

shame it wasn`t left on so i could view it when i got back home yesterday evening....lol...
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He was slagging us both from what I was told and marvo quickly jumped in and edited it, I wouldn't of minded but my posts towards steve (hippy) are positive and in no way negative in this thread and any on the forum, uncalled for in my view.
 
MDJ said:
He was slagging us both from what I was told and marvo quickly jumped in and edited it, I wouldn't of minded but my posts towards steve (hippy) are positive and in no way negative in this thread and any on the forum, uncalled for in my view.
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so were mine mate...so were mine...

shame that some in here cant see through it though....

as far as the name calling is concerned....lol...i can cope with all of that.....

would be interesting though wouldn`t it if i were ever to meet either of them round & about....
 
GLENNSPARK said:
so were mine mate...so were mine...

shame that some in here cant see through it though....

as far as the name calling is concerned....lol...i can cope with all of that.....

would be interesting though wouldn`t it if i were ever to meet either of them round & about....
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Aye a bit of banter is what it is all about, from what I have heard from 2 different members now, one here and one over the other side they were mocking not having banter, thats a dangerous game, a couple of confused members who should know better.
 
MDJ said:
Aye a bit of banter is what it is all about, from what I have heard from 2 different members now, one here and one over the other side they were mocking not having banter, thats a dangerous game, a couple of confused members who should know better.
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yep agreed...

any relationship they are having shouldn`t be aired in here....
 
I'll make my position clear, I have nothing against any of you because I don't actually know anyone you. Oh I wasn't fond of JRC actually. He should come back, I miss the comedy
 
MDJ said:
I have missed the comment but been told about it, My time will come with you thats for sure, I never forget, especially silly comments by Nobodies with a chip on the shoulder and small mans syndrome lmao
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You don't bother me in the slightest. You flip your opinion and values depending on what other member is posting. You lack integrity. Also if you cannot take it, you should not give it out. LMAO
 
Meggerman said:
You don't bother me in the slightest. You flip your opinion and values depending on what other member is posting. You lack integrity. Also if you cannot take it, you should not give it out. LMAO
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I can take it pal, but where on this thread did I dish it out? Now if I would have dished something out in this thread then you may well have been justified in your unprovoked posting, as nothing was dished out except positive comments I have to assume you are getting personal for no reason at all, so up yours, you get your knickers in a twist over anything you don't like the sound of in any thread and behave like a simpleton, a spoilt brat even, I have no idea how old you are and couldn't care less but whatever your age grow up, regarding integrity, thats rich coming from you, hilarious in fact, your nothing but a jumped up spoilt little small man with a horendous chip on his shoulder.
 
Guys what I can't understand is if you don't get on or haven't got anything constructive to add to each other's thread just avoid each other. Looking back over the thread it looks like you will never agree so its time to agree to disagree and have a hug
 
See my advice in my post you should take it and p@@s off

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Lol just joking shankey

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I was going to give it a bit longer but I didn't want you to cry:heart:
 
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Another silly post Iam, I thought you had got that nonsence out of your system and was back posting in a positive manner, still you have your own Troll in meggar man to back you up now, what about me and glenn meeting you and meggarman at say a junction on the m1 half way between us both and you can show us how hard you really are. Just read this nonsense.
 
Meggerman said:
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Originally Posted by MDJ
Another silly post Iam, I thought you had got that nonsence out of your system and was back posting in a positive manner, still you have your own Troll in meggar man to back you up now, what about me and glenn meeting you and meggarman at say a junction on the m1 half way between us both and you can show us how hard you really are. Just read this nonsense.
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Yes it was a silly last part of the post, hense the fact I tried to remove it, however it was after your unprovoked attack on me earlier, so were as bad as each other, one difference, Had you not posted insulting comments in the first place which needed removing I would have never posted any towards you, like I said earlier, you seem to want to on purpose start a situation without any reason, there is nowhere on this thread before your attack on myself anywhere where I posted anything nasty or un friendly to the OP. Anyhow I am bored with you now, I will be watching out for you though cocker.
 
MDJ said:
Yes it was a silly last part of the post, hense the fact I tried to remove it, however it was after your unprovoked attack on me earlier, so were as bad as each other, one difference, Had you not posted insulting comments in the first place which needed removing I would have never posted any towards you, like I said earlier, you seem to want to on purpose start a situation without any reason, there is nowhere on this thread before your attack on myself anywhere where I posted anything nasty or un friendly to the OP. Anyhow I am bored with you now, I will be watching out for you though cocker.
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ere Mike..

clear your inbox..
 
MDJ said:
Yes it was a silly last part of the post, hense the fact I tried to remove it, however it was after your unprovoked attack on me earlier, so were as bad as each other, one difference, Had you not posted insulting comments in the first place which needed removing I would have never posted any towards you, like I said earlier, you seem to want to on purpose start a situation without any reason, there is nowhere on this thread before your attack on myself anywhere where I posted anything nasty or un friendly to the OP. Anyhow I am bored with you now, I will be watching out for you though cocker.
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Exactly what insulting post was that anyway? I think your last post was far more inflammatory with personal comments.
 
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