discrepancy from a scam

[sedgy34]

so if your nic registered and you change a DB you have to do tests ze r1r2 on final circuits and zs,s etc put in the box wired by others
and
if your napit registered ive been told you do ze & zs,s on final circuits only as you havnt wired the property

so if someone wires there house DIY and they call you in to change the DB you change the DB and put in box Wired by others as you have to notify the DB change the installation gets a Part p certificate

your thoughts on this as my half day scam is getting closer and i want to put it in as a question!!

 

[Moses]

When you install the CU, you are only certifying the installation of the CU.

If there are and installation faults in the installation labelling, connections, routing, sizing etc, you put a disclaimer as system buried in the building fabric not inspected.

 

[Guest55]

well the notification will only include the cu done by the spark , not the rewire done by the diy'er.
so the diy'er wont be getting his own work notified by the back door.
is this what you mean ?

 

[sedgy34]

agreed but the house holder still gets a part p cert because of the DB change no oone is non the wiser so it just clarifies part p is taking the PEE

 

[Plonker 3]

The EIC has a box saying what part of the installation this certificate covers, so just write DB change only.

When I register jobs with Elecsa they ask for the certificate number. So there should be a audit trail for the registation and the Part P notification.

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[Guest55]

Cant wait for the part p changes that will come next year.
The scams membership numbers will fall like a house of cards in a tornado lol.

 

[sedgy34]

im thinking though the house holder DIY er still gets a part p cert

 

[Plonker 3]

Yes they will. But if problems arise later on and they follow it up and realise that the Part P cert doesn't cover what Mr DIY then there could be repercussions to follow.

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[MKS]

Biff, what's changing?

Usually a EICR should be carried out before consumer unit change, more often than not, missed! Just saying lol

 

[Octopus]

im thinking though the house holder DIY er still gets a part p cert

Only stating what the installer did. If its a CU change it says that, if its a rewire, it says that.....

 

[sedgy34]

Yes they will. But if problems arise later on and they follow it up and realise that the Part P cert doesn't cover what Mr DIY then there could be repercussions to follow.

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in the scenario mentioned it would take years for anyone to notice, by this time whos bothered!!!!

 

[Plonker 3]

Why would it. Yes here is the Part P certificate and here is the EIC that covers the works done. If it isn't notified on the cert then it isn't covered.

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[Guest55]

Biff, what's changing?

Usually a EICR should be carried out before consumer unit change, more often than not, missed! Just saying lol

Not confirmed yet but have been proposed.....

Fewer types of job that need to be notified.
Cheaper council fees for sparks that arent in a scheme but are qualified.
Third party inspections / certs for diy work.

Will be decided at the end of year.

 

[Plonker 3]

Sounds like the changes may affect membership to schemes badly. So somehow don't think they will go ahead.

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[MKS]

I will be following that with interest! Cheers Biff

 

[Octopus]

Not confirmed yet but have been proposed.....


Will be decided at the end of year.

According to who. Turkeys don't normally vote for christmas!!

 

[Guest55]

Sounds like the changes may affect membership to schemes badly. So somehow don't think they will go ahead.

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They will to stop the current set-up from collapsing completely.
Scheme membership numbers have been dropping anyway since their peak in 2008 , and that is a fact my friend.

 

[sedgy34]

Not confirmed yet but have been proposed.....

Fewer types of job that need to be notified.
Cheaper council fees for sparks that arent in a scheme but are qualified.
Third party inspections / certs for diy work.

Will be decided at the end of year.

think they should keep the good sparkys exempt from this scheme!!

 

[Plonker 3]

They will to stop the current set-up from collapsing completely.
Scheme membership numbers have been dropping anyway since their peak in 2008 , and that is a fact my friend.

Hardly surprising they are dropping with nothing being done to enforce it.

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[Guest55]

According to who. Turkeys don't normally vote for christmas!!

According to some of the big boys on the IET forum who were privvy to the consultations earlier this year.
The info seemed fairly reliable , as these guys have no personal interests in the domestic sector.