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So it does Pete I missed that. More to this than meets the eye me thinks.
Such as...? I’m happy to give any more information required if it helps.
Thanks.
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So it does Pete I missed that. More to this than meets the eye me thinks.
Using Twin and cpcfor this type of installation, is not the best Idea in the World.Good afternoon all,
First time posting on here so not sure if this is the correct place to post this but I’m sure you will all correct me if it isn’t.
My query today is whether anyone can see a problem using twin and earth to supply motor units fed from C rated MCBs?
I have enquired with an NICEIC assessor who says he doesn’t see the problem with it but still remain unsure and uncertain within my head.
Maybe this is unacceptable in all circumstances, maybe it’s ok for shorter runs but not larger runs, could be that it’s perfectly fine.
Please let me know your thoughts! Thanks.
What’s your opinion on the situation @ToonSparky?
In that case not something I would do.As I have said above, I personally use SWA in this sort of installation.
I’m merely asking out of curiosity to see if there was anyone on this forum who would agree that it is fine to carry out the works in this way.
Agreed that I have asked the NICEIC about things in the past and they have come back with “we can’t advise you on that” to which I thought how can you be an assessor yet not give advice. Strange.
In this case however, the NIC bloke said it was fine to do which made me wonder other peoples thoughts on it.
Thanks.
It seems odd that if you just curious you have gone to the effort of contacting the NICEIC.
Your response about asking the NIC several things im the past and about design aspects looks like you dont have the knowledge to be carrying out electrical works in the enviromnets that you are working in. Surely they are only used to seek reassurance or to clarify a grey area of which there are alot of in BS7671.
The past couple of questions I have asked them about were regarding JIB cards and ECS assessments so completely unrelated.
Thanks.
I don't think anyone is trying to belittle you Mate, it just seems odd that with your quals and experience you are asking questions that you should be aware of.Always good to ask questions on things you are unsure about. No harm in asking is there? Feel it would be wrong to advise a customer about things like this in the future unless I’m sure myself.
I didn’t say I had asked about “several things” so please don’t put words in my mouth in what seemed to be an attempt to belittle me. The past couple of questions I have asked them about were regarding JIB cards and ECS assessments so completely unrelated.
Thanks.
I don't think anyone is trying to belittle you Mate, it just seems odd that with your quals and experience you are asking questions that you should be aware of.
So Rotary isolator directly feeds and operates the motor, or is it some kind of unit with a motor incorperated ?
What size are the motors ?
Are they above 0.37kw ?
Any overload protection provided for the motors ?
Sorry, AJshep, I missed this.
Twin and earths from a distribution board fed from individual C curve MCBs, ranging from 6A to 20A I believe if I remember correctly, terminated into rotary isolators adjacent to the motor units with a twin and earth tail from the isolators into the motor connections.
What do you think ToonSparky about the way it is done. You have our opinions but what is yours.
You still haven't answered the question"how d you intend to enter the isolator using twin and cpc?"I personally wouldn’t have chosen to install the circuits the way they have been but that doesn’t mean to say the job has been done incorrectly.
It just goes to show that just completing a job that complies with regulations isn't necessarily the correct way to go about it. The advice gained from NICEIC regarding compliance is from someone who knows as much about the installation as we do. From the info given, it doesn't sound good to me, but the one in the best position is yourself.I personally wouldn’t have chosen to install the circuits the way they have been but that doesn’t mean to say the job has been done incorrectly.
It's been done already, hasn't it, Pete?1
You still haven't answered the question"how d you intend to enter the isolator using twin and cpc?"
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