Double socket problems!!

[rennie158]

I’m changing my double socket and upon removing the old one, I seem to have 3 separate wires coming in to it. So essentially I have 3 live wires, 3 neutral wires, and 3 earth wires. How do I connect the earth wires to the new socket as it only has 2 terminals? I’m fitting new chrome black sockets so want to be careful!!

 

[brianmoooore]

The "17 year old" is still hanging around, 47 years later, although in an evil mood tonight.

 

[brianmoooore]

in an evil mood tonight.

Found out why! The Dunelm website is having problems and won't accept her order.

 

[UNG]

That wiring (the red and black bit) is over 50 years old. Might be time to think about replacing the bits of the installation not on show, rather than just the decorative bits.

Not sure how you can date that installation at over 50 years old from that picture alone

 

[pc1966]

Not sure how you can date that installation at over 50 years old from that picture alone

True, might have been red & black up to 2004/6

However, it seems to have stranded conductors so I guess it is imperial size cable and not the 2.5mm T&E?

 

[UNG]

True, might have been red & black up to 2004/6

However, it seems to have stranded conductors so I guess it is imperial size cable and not the 2.5mm T&E?

2.5mm² stranded T&E was manufactured until at least 1983/4 by AEI and was actually specified by some customers in their tender documents at the time

 

[brianmoooore]

Most of the imperial cable I've dealt with has been tinned. Did this apply right up to the end of production?
The cable in the pic isn't tinned.
Did the stranded 2.5 have a stranded cpc as well?

 

[Mike Johnson]

The house I grew up in had round pin Bakelite sockets but then we where lucky.

 

[brianmoooore]

The house I grew up in had round pin Bakelite sockets but then we where lucky.

So had mine, up until the age of eleven, powered by a Lister start o matric, of all of 2.5kVa.

 

[cloverman]

So had mine, up until the age of eleven, powered by a Lister start o matric, of all of 2.5kVa.

You guys had a life of luxury, The house I grew up in, we had a couple of tilly lamps.

 

[Mike Johnson]

The house of my first memory was in Highbury and had gas mantles we rented the ground floor off two old ladies that lived upstairs and we where allowed to use the bathroom once a month, our loo was outside with the mangle and my mother would wash my brother and I in the wood fired copper in the scullery which was our kitchen, my first school was Drayton Park, not far from Arsenal, this was in Melgand Road just up from the library in Holloway Road.

 

[UNG]

Just found this Datasheet

On page 3 it shows *H6242YST 2 x 2.5 Nominal stranding of conductor 7 / 0.67 & CPC 1 / 1.38 (1.5mm²)

So stranded 2.5 is still manufactured and the sheet also shows stranded 1.5

 

[brianmoooore]

So stranded 2.5 is still manufactured and the sheet also shows stranded 1.5

But with a solid cpc.

 

[Mike Johnson]

But with a solid cpc.

Of a totally different size to the phase and neutral?

 

[pc1966]

Just found this Datasheet

On page 3 it shows *H6242YST 2 x 2.5 Nominal stranding of conductor 7 / 0.67 & CPC 1 / 1.38 (1.5mm²)

So stranded 2.5 is still manufactured and the sheet also shows stranded 1.5

Interesting, has anyone seen it stocked though?

I can see some advantages to stranded 2.5mm as more flexible so easier for pulling though conduit, etc, but that is not really done often.

 

[UNG]

Of a totally different size to the phase and neutral?

Like all T&E then

 

[westward10]

Like all T&E then

Nearly all.

 

[brianmoooore]

But with a solid cpc.

Unlike the cable in the OP pic, which appear to have a stranded cpc.

 

[Mike Johnson]

Just found this Datasheet

On page 3 it shows *H6242YST 2 x 2.5 Nominal stranding of conductor 7 / 0.67 & CPC 1 / 1.38 (1.5mm²)

So stranded 2.5 is still manufactured and the sheet also shows stranded 1.5

I have not seen sigle strand 2.5 outside T&E it all seems to be multi strand in Europe, stocked by TLC in the UK.

 

[pc1966]

I have not seen sigle strand 2.5 outside T&E it all seems to be multi strand in Europe, stocked by TLC in the UK.

Conduit cable certainly is usually stranded in 1.5mm & 2.5mm where T&E is single.

I don't see stranded T&E on TLC site?

EDIT: For 1.5mm/2,5mm as bigger is usually stranded

 

[UNG]

Conduit cable certainly is usually stranded in 1.5mm & 2.5mm where T&E is single.

I don't see stranded T&E on TLC site?

Only found it on the Check Every Figure site