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Either way an RCBO is about £20 and fitting say £35 so what's the problem?
The cost is not the issue though, the report should be accurate.
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Either way an RCBO is about £20 and fitting say £35 so what's the problem?
It is not an automatic C2, however it could well be a C2. Lots of landlords are starting to ask the same question and I think we need to focus on the fact that an RCD is a life saver.All,
I absolutely agree safety first!
Cost is not the issue
I want to understand if "not have all circuits RCD protected" is an automatic C2 rating
- Page 12 of the Best Practice Guide attached - implies to me no this is not a C2.
I am on here for guidance from experts. I am NOT an electrician. I would/ do appreciate your response and guidance.
If something is deemed safe and up to standard when installed, I don’t like the presumption that it is unsafe when new regs are published.
I am sure there is a comment in the regs book that says pretty much the same thing but I am not going to look for it tonight.
Hello,
I've recently had an EICR done on my 2 bed house which is a residential let. This house is about 25 years old built by Charles Church.
The EICR has not been issued due do C2's, there were no C1's
Email with C2s ratings for 1) Not all circuits RCD protected, 2) Bathroom light is a bare build not IP rated and 3) Hall pendant missing skirt cap.
I have no more detail at present ... just an email with bullets.
Just to reiterate I have some circuits with RCDs just not "all" circuits with RCDs!
I have challenged the email from the estate agent and received this response.
"As for the codes, any privately rented property nowdays requires rcd protection across each and every circuit to ensure safety to the tenants, failure of 30mA rcd protection on any circuits causes a C2 code when then the EICR fails as it cannot pass with any C2 codes present. (I'm currently having this problem at 90% of properties I'm conducting EICRs at) so unfortunately it is mandatory. 100% a code 2, it's different if it's in your own household then it's a code 3, but a rented accommodation it's a code 2 as all circuits have to be rcd protect for the safety of the tenants.
I will break the quotation down further for you with a full quotation typed up thoroughly shortly."
So the question and help required is
QUESTION: Is it a REQUIREMENT to have RCDs on "all" circuits to avoid a C2 rating? My position after limited research is no it is not a C2
HELP REQUIRED: How do I proceed? The property manager Romans Estate Agents in Berkshire is the individual supporting the Electricians position!
Report yet to be issued/released by the Estate Agent and or Electrician
Absolutely, littlespark, 1 day the 18th finishes, the next day the 19th starts. What happens? rewire everything?As far as the electrician doing the report is concerned there should be no difference in coding between an owned property and one to be rented.
I’m sure there’s another thread on here mentioning that the new rules for all rented to have an EICR is worded wrong.
What happens in a few years when the 19th comes out?
Eicr is a report, Well I think that's what the "R" is for!There is an often misunderstood statement in the regulations that compliance with a previous edition does not necessarily mean something is dangerous, potentially dangerous or in need of improvement.
This does not say that 'if it complied when it is installed then it is ok'
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What a load of bull-poo!
The regulations are the same for all installations, it doesn't matter whether it is rented or not.
There are a number of reasons for installing RCD protection on circuits, depending on the exact situation a lack of RCD protection can be either a C2 or C3 item.
An EICR is not a certificate, it is a report.
The job you have employed them to do is carry out a report, if they have refused to provide you with the report then don't pay them and get another electrician to do it.
They have no right, or reason, to withhold the report based on the outcome of the report.
The overall assessment of an installation cannot be 'fail' it can only be 'satisfactory' or 'unsatisfactory'
Eicr is a report, Well I think that's what the "R" is for!
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